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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:20 am

### Thanatos

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 249

He wont view the videos because the videos have nothing to do with the competition JoeT, the competition is held in a research facility with scientists, randi is just an observer to check for any deception. Kramer said specificly: We do not want your videos, please read the rules of the competition.
Read this: http://206.225.95.123/forumlive//showthread.php?t=50033

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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:42 am

### Peebrain

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Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 716

Just so you know, Kramer edits the emails before posting them on the message board. In fact, sometimes false emails get posted that "no one" knows where it came from.
How do I know? Well, it happened to me.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=34434
The emails he posted were not the same emails I sent him. If you'd like more information, I can provide it.
~Sean

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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:15 am

### Thanatos

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 249

You know you can sue him for that. If he modified your email and posted it as valid with your name on it, thats serious in court i think... Sue the challenge for 1 million $ j/k

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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:43 am

### JoeT

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 349

Hello everyone,
I was talking to a friend of mine, Dane Spotts, earlier this year about the challenge. Psi Tech DID apply for the challenge however Randi never responded! What does that say about him? That he's a fake, horrible skeptic and a person who?s afraid of the truth that he "so wants".
Sean, I read the thread you posted (six pages). Very interesting, of course Randi admitted he was wrong. I'm wondering, did you want to apply for the challenge or did you just want the information and terms for the challenge?
If anyone would like to look more deeply into the Psi Tech offering, please visit the following link;
1) http://www.trvnews.com/tsl/090502/

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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:26 am

### somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

JoeT wrote:

Hello everyone,
I was talking to a friend of mine, Dane Spotts, earlier this year about the challenge. Psi Tech DID apply for the challenge however Randi never responded! What does that say about him? That he's a fake, horrible skeptic and a person who?s afraid of the truth that he "so wants".
Sean, I read the thread you posted (All six pages). Very interesting, of course Randi admitted he was wrong. I'm wondering, did you want to apply for the challenge or did you just want the information and terms for the challenge?
If anyone would like to look more deeply into the Psi Tech offering, please visit the following link;
1) http://www.trvnews.com/tsl/090502/

Sorry to be random but I like how you always say hello. It's different. Aww...I guess chances are right, I do suck.

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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:45 am

### JoeT

Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 349

Hello somefatguy,
Heh, my "Hello everyone" makes up for the "Chances are...You suck" quote. For the record, I just like the quote. You don't suck .
Take care.
- JoeT

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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:46 am

### somefatguy

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1187

JoeT wrote:
Hello somefatguy, Heh, my "Hello everyone" makes up for the "Chances are...You suck" quote. For the record, I just like the quote. You don't suck . Take care. - JoeT

Thanks.

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Posted on Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:18 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

Peebs, that is sad! I think you should publicize that in the psychic world so that people see how fake he is. or........not

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Posted on Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:18 am

### EvilLaughKid2

Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 8

Well, everything in the yoyotk thread by Kramer was reasonable. the other guy was being unreasonable.
The thing with peebrain was just misunderstanding turned into frustration on both parts. Although I dunno why peebrain didn't just apply.

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Posted on Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:57 am

### Peebrain

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Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 716

I think you missed the part about him editing and fabricating emails. Oh yeah, and lieing about sending me a letter confirming the funds existed.
~Sean

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Posted on Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:40 am

### Red_Devil

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 136

About the psychic side and their side, all I can say is... both sides are right in their own way.
We're here because we practice psi and we believe it exists, or, on other cases, people trying to make their mind about psi.
Over there, they're trying to prove that paranormal is just a legend made up from almost the beginning of times (even though they say they aren't trying to debunk anything), with no intention whatsoever of proving or disproving psi.
It's all a matter of opinions.

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Posted on Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:06 am

### Peebrain

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Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 716

I have no problem with opinions. I have a big problem with "the end justifies the means" mentallity. I agree with a lot of skeptics and consider myself a skeptical person - however that doesn't give me permission to lie in order to force my beliefs down other peoples' throats.
~Sean

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Posted on Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:23 pm

### Red_Devil

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 136

Peebrain wrote:

I have no problem with opinions. I have a big problem with "the end justifies the means" mentallity. I agree with a lot of skeptics and consider myself a skeptical person - however that doesn't give me permission to lie in order to force my beliefs down other peoples' throats.
~Sean

I know what you mean, from what I read in that thread, only two or three people try to have what might resemble critical thinking and an open mind. Gamefaqs has the exact same problem, close minded skeptics just go there to joke about the paranormal and whatnot, and just can't take the truth even when it's right in front of their face. Most claimants in there don't try to shove their beliefs down anyone's throat, and, on contrary, close mind skeptics try to do just that.

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hmmm... on Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:06 pm

### johnnyblaze

Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 14

I was just wondering, since we recently just learned about this in school; does anyone think this could just be related to the Focault Pendulum? It was just a thought event though to see the effect that the Focault Pendulum produces it would take an hour for the pendulum to change direction by 11 degrees. If you read up about this subject, you will understand what I am talkng about.

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Posted on Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:22 pm

### WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

earth's motion triggers the focault pendulum, right? well like you said, it takes too long...

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