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In haste or natural? on Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:51 am

### wyat

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 48

I've been trying for God-know a month or two right now but still not an iota of success so far. I'm still having difficulties rolling a can. I'm quite persistent but to no avail. Is this natural? Or is it still the same old advice...practise and practise? Any help or guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks

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Posted on Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:50 am

### Rahmid

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 739

You probably should start small with the psi-wheel. Rolling things is a little advanced. I just started moving to that. No success yet, but i'm gettin shakes and wiggles from the pen i'm using. The psi-wheel is incredebly easy to get to move. I had it going after a week or so of practice. Be patient, and yes practice, practice, practice.
Rahmid

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Posted on Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:55 am

### LOTRfool

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 518

Agreed. Start with the wheel. Or you can stick with the can for another few months with small results . Your choice.
(I suggest the wheel .)

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Posted on Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:39 pm

### neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

Why do people believe in advance skills? there isn't any proof that sliding an object is "advance" if it was true, I would be classified as advance user of psychokinesis, and I'm not, I've only been practicing for almost a year, and I started to slide objects.
So, which I'm saying is, Don't restrict yourself on ability and objects, Just because someone say it would take months to do or it's advance, I never did.

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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:17 am

### wyat

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 48

Actually I'm able to spin the psi-wheel. The only problem that I encounter is that I'm still unable to roll the can. It won't budge...

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Do not get upset... on Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:39 am

### Smith

Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 46

Hello wyat,do not get upset if you can't roll a can because greater you get depressed,the lower is the chance of any achievement.So,don't get upset.Believe that the can will roll and be positive.I can say that after a week or so,you will get upset naturally.But getting sad and losing faith are the worst things that can happen to practising TK.If you have no faith,your sub-concious mind would not be in the right state.So,whatever you do,DO NOT get upset.

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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:44 am

### Ilich

Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 55

Maybe you should try working with a toothpick?

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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:44 am

### Rahmid

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 739

Read a post i read called "moving to rolling" Martial Artist gives some good advice
Rahmid

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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:05 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

neveza wrote:

Why do people believe in advance skills? there isn't any proof that sliding an object is "advance" if it was true, I would be classified as advance user of psychokinesis, and I'm not, I've only been practicing for almost a year, and I started to slide objects.
So, which I'm saying is, Don't restrict yourself on ability and objects, Just because someone say it would take months to do or it's advance, I never did.

Advanced is a point of view. Just like the word "evil". It is more advanced than the psiwheel because it is harder to move. With the psiwheel, you are just spinning it around and around with a little friction. With rolling and especially sliding, there is a lot more friction and other factors. You are right when you say not to restrict yourself. But from the way you posted, you make it seem that you could move a car if you have never done it before. It is like, if you had never lifted weights before and you go for the 500 pound barbell, you will not lift it. You will not ever lift it unless you start out smaller.

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Posted on Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:08 am

### wyat

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 48

Maybe it's a sense of frustration. I mean it's natural that people feel it cuz sometimes they just feel like the tonnes of effort that they put in doesn't compensate with the fruits of labours.
In fact I read up on almost all the articles about rolling and stuff, it still doesn't work well yet.
So, I'm beginning to wonder that something's amiss with the way I practise, like I wasn't focussing at the correct angle, etc...
Believe me, I always accentuate positive and keep a capacious mind.

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Posted on Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:55 pm

### johnyo5

Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 177

hmmm i duno it sounds like your practacing right i mean your keeping positive and everything and your obviously determined when i try roll the can i always look at the top side of the can or the middle i never look at the botom for some reason it just seems harder

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Posted on Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:09 pm

### pepsiboy

Joined: 25 Jun 2006
Posts: 562

play the limp biscuit song "rollin" and while listening to it tell yourself that you will after the song is over roll the mtoherfukcin can and it should work if you dont think too hard.

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Posted on Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:47 am

### wannabepker

Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 71

Nice pepsiboy...
Anyway, i agree with the people above. Except apollo. You're still exerting force on the weights, just not lifting it. your muscles will get stronger, you just won't get results. How about this... try moving something <i> heavier </i> than a can for maybe 2-3 practice sessions, then move back and see if you get better results? That might just work.

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Posted on Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:27 am

### wyat

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 48

I'm still trying but to no avail so far. Blasting the music ain't gonna help...lol...b.t.w. thanks for the advice...

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Posted on Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:57 pm

### pepsiboy

Joined: 25 Jun 2006
Posts: 562

ok what i meant was.. at first make a goal.. lets say you want to roll a pencil...
think.. im going to roll this mo-fo right after i do __________ whatever it is you need to do to get your mind off of things. take a moment to relax whatever. when this is done return to your pencil (hopefully its already set up) and just do it without trying to think about it much.

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