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Posted on Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:22 pm

### Eldibs

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 909

It just depends on whether or not you want to have to talk to the person again. Personally, I'd rather not deal with those who insult what they don't understand. But, whatever floats your boat.

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Posted on Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:00 pm

### PouncingKavu

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 57

bladeslinger wrote:
thats just it, i for one dont want the word to get out......people will be calling me satan worshipper more than usual and think of your social life...nobody wants to date someone who can read minds or make you do stuff with psychokinesis..and nobody wants to believe it....i annoyed my friend constantly with all sorts of stuff until he tried it and he still doesnt believe...i dont think the world is ready for psionics yet...we might as well just keep it in the small communities at the time being.

There are a lot of good points here. 1- I'm fine with getting the word out. There will be one very hard point that starts as soon as everyone knows. As you said, beople will be labeled as satan worshippers. Some will not stop believing this, no matter what. Soon, they would become the outcasts, though. It just has to wait until we get backup. Where do we get the backup? We create it. Tell others, and practice in secret. You can also look for others, you might be surprised...
2- The world probably isn't ready. That isn't the skeptics' fault, it's ours. This is our battle, we have to prepare for it. The skeptics can't get any stronger, they can only weaken at this point.
3- What do you mean, "make you do stuff with psychokinesis?"
4- "nobody wants to date someone who can read minds" They could read your mind if you were not on a date with them anyway, eh? Okay, that's a bad point. But seriously, if everyone knows, it will be a power struggle. This is like saying, "nobody wants to date someone who can beat them up." No one thinks about this, and after a while, your point will be meaningless, too. While people haven't gained enough strength or won't practice (there are people who don't work out, in fact, there are quite a few), that's their problem. So basically what I am saying here is, after everyone knows, everything will go very bad, but will get alot better, hopefully better than when people didn't know.
4.5- EDIT- Demonstrations are very bad. They don't usually work as a method of convincing others. You need to get on their level and talk to them about it.
5- Niushirra, try to work on your grammar. That was dang hard to read.

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Posted on Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:17 pm

### Thanatos

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 249

Im with niushira, proving to a researcher with a certain power in a research department wont get you publicity, but it will help more people beleive you. The media doesnt care less unless your doing something wide. There are MILLIONS of so called pseudopsychics around, open your eyes, open one of those women magazines and on the last page its full of mediums that want your money. Are they called devil worshipers? I know many women who phone those numbers and do other stupid things.

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Posted on Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:30 pm

### Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

I have a new idea. Reveal whenever you can. Like, for example, if you are sitting alone in a waiting room with like two other people you can like tear off a peice of paper from something and say "hey wanna see something cool." Just levitate some paper and don't explain it. This will make THEM research it themselves. If they don't it'll soften the blow of a final reveal that I am thinking will happen.

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Posted on Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:57 pm

### monk

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 31

there will always be that, maybe its just a good magic trick doubt in the back of peoples minds.
although if your going to do that waiting room trick dont say anything to them at all, its more mystic that way and more likely to get them to thinking

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Posted on Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:21 am

### Taura_Tierno

Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 15

Thanatos wrote:
Im with niushira, proving to a researcher with a certain power in a research department wont get you publicity, but it will help more people beleive you. The media doesnt care less unless your doing something wide. There are MILLIONS of so called pseudopsychics around, open your eyes, open one of those women magazines and on the last page its full of mediums that want your money. Are they called devil worshipers? I know many women who phone those numbers and do other stupid things.

I haven't heard those people in the women magazines being called devil worshippers, but I have heard them being called frauds, idiots, and other not so very kind things. That is, no one really believes them.

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Posted on Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:46 pm

### mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

Quote:
People never believe TV.

Funny thing. Lots of people believe TV.
I like the ideas so far.
But no publicity, the media will twist your words...

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Posted on Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:03 pm

### Taura_Tierno

Joined: 16 Mar 2006
Posts: 15

I just remembered reading something in the paper a week ago or something like that. About football and homosexuality, and it mentioned a football player coming out as gay a few years back, the media stalked him, he left the team (or was kicked, don't remember), and four years later he killed himself because of that. Behold the power of the media.

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Posted on Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:09 pm

### Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

mattz1010 wrote:

Quote:
People never believe TV.

Funny thing. Lots of people believe TV.
I like the ideas so far.
But no publicity, the media will twist your words...

I actually never said media. I just said telling people. Right now it seems there are really almost no psions that are told. Only people who look for it. I just want a proactive stance of telling people instead of just "shhhh let's keep this quiet."

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Posted on Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:31 pm

### WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

uh... I don't want it to be known, I don't want psi to be commonplace, that would make everything stupid, I wouldn't be able to mess with my friends head like a big show-offy jerk, or manipulate people by asking them to do something and using what I call glamour (I don't what you guys here call it... Empathic control?) To make them feel sorry for me or whatever. there would be too many people who would know what I was doing...

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Posted on Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:39 pm

### mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

The media have access to things you can't even begin to encompass your mind around.
I'm not against the whole 'revealers' thing, I'm just regurgitating my only point: The people in the media are a bunch of greedy, nasty fucks who will find out information not supposed to exist, change the words around to get more money, then publish it.
Of course, they won't publish it if you're from the U.S. government and you give them alot of money...

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Posted on Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:20 pm

### Eldibs

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 909

They probably wouldn't publish it if you gave them a lot of money regardless of whether or not you're from the government.

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Posted on Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:33 am

### Red_Devil

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 136

Well, I like one thing that the media can do. Like that movie where Janet Jackson was cought naked on her backyard in some house.
*Ahem*
Apart from teh funnay things they do, I can't stand to think that they can go as far as to find those sad sad stories about people who can't never saw their parents, brothers, aunts, goats, whatever. And mostly when the stories are probably fake. It gives them higher rates and such, so, whatever... I'm kinda random at this. Meh.

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Posted on Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:51 pm

### PouncingKavu

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 57

Niushirra wrote:
Right now it seems there are really almost no psions that are told. Only people who look for it.

I find it hard to believbe that you hadn't remembered that you were told.
Is proactive the best way? I don't think so. I am changing my above statement a bit: I don't think telling people is the best way, as you well know, Niushirra. No, I am not referring to you, yourself, but those whom you have told. He has told some people as an "experiment," a name given to the situation afterwords. All of them sorted faded away from psionics, and presto: nothing accomplished. We just need to wait until there are enough people that do find it on their own That probably will never happen, however, so I think that "the underground" is how it will stay, no matter how hard we try. Okay, I am totally repealing my above statement. So anyway, there may be a way to incorporate so-called "revealers" into society, but I don't think anyone here has a plan that will actually work. I know I sure don't.

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Posted on Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:40 pm

### Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

PouncingKavu wrote:

Niushirra wrote:
Right now it seems there are really almost no psions that are told. Only people who look for it.

I find it hard to believbe that you hadn't remembered that you were told.
Is proactive the best way? I don't think so. I am changing my above statement a bit: I don't think telling people is the best way, as you well know, Niushirra. No, I am not referring to you, yourself, but those whom you have told. He has told some people as an "experiment," a name given to the situation afterwords. All of them sorted faded away from psionics, and presto: nothing accomplished. We just need to wait until there are enough people that do find it on their own That probably will never happen, however, so I think that "the underground" is how it will stay, no matter how hard we try. Okay, I am totally repealing my above statement. So anyway, there may be a way to incorporate so-called "revealers" into society, but I don't think anyone here has a plan that will actually work. I know I sure don't.

Yes, yes I know. I am living proof that you CAN tell people without proof and still start them into psionics. I was living my life fine without a care if they were real or not then kavu pounced me and threw me headfirst into psionics. Everybody wants proof though. If you keep yourself out of the media's range, like I said, underground movement, then you should be able to successfully prove to a good number of people the truth. The mysterious aspect of a revealing session serves two purposes. One: They won't know your name or anything about you other then that you can do all these crazy things. Two: It makes them want more. Those psions who refuse to give proof or hate getting word for selfish reasons are bad. If you don't want to prove proactively because you're afraid of what today's soceity could do then ok fine. You can be that way but there will be more people willing to do this. Oh yes, my expirments. They all failed basically. Actually one person may still be with the psionics but I think she stopped practicing without me helping her along and practicing telepathy with her. I had some bad experiences with revealing things to people who shouldn't know. It's a good thing they all forgot about it and don't cause problems anymore.

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