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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 10:30 pm

### an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

What would a wise person say?

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 10:54 pm

### Aether

Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 60

"I'm locking this thread." - comes to mind.
Aether.

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Posted on Mon May 08, 2006 1:04 am

### SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

I don't know if a wise man would really say anything at all. What is there to say?

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Posted on Mon May 08, 2006 8:00 am

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

Has this topic run off topic or what?

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Posted on Mon May 08, 2006 10:04 am

### an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

True wisdom stands on a table surrounded by hungry men. Now if applied to the art of war each portion would be divided accordingly, however with the communicational abilities as it were I wish that all knowledge be given to everyone. Only then will we be able to rise against a power greater then ourselves. I give wisdom for it only makes me wiser.
Now as I relax in awe of that let me claim that rarely can such words have truth when enemies are closer then friends, yet Im reminded of a tale.
A group of warriors raids a town completely. Every person and home was burnt to the ground. One man survived so the general ask him if he would care for a swift death. The man replied that he knew of a secret map and would tell the warrior with his famous wine. The general feeling shaken from the kindness agrees only if the man tell him the secret now.
Even when left with nothing a man can have the opportunity to mold a generals mind with his convincingness

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Posted on Mon May 08, 2006 1:36 pm

### Aether

Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 60

an__St wrote:

True wisdom stands on a table surrounded by hungry men. Now if applied to the art of war each portion would be divided accordingly, however with the communicational abilities as it were I wish that all knowledge be given to everyone. Only then will we be able to rise against a power greater then ourselves. I give wisdom for it only makes me wiser.
Now as I relax in awe of that let me claim that rarely can such words have truth when enemies are closer then friends, yet Im reminded of a tale.
A group of warriors raids a town completely. Every person and home was burnt to the ground. One man survived so the general ask him if he would care for a swift death. The man replied that he knew of a secret map and would tell the warrior with his famous wine. The general feeling shaken from the kindness agrees only if the man tell him the secret now.
Even when left with nothing a man can have the opportunity to mold a generals mind with his convincingness

Ace! Story time.
Apollo: Yep, I'd say this has run very much off topic... unless, cryptical proverbs and metaphors in some way relate to the original subject in some way I can't see?
Aether.

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Posted on Mon May 08, 2006 8:07 pm

### an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

From my vantage point I have seen few attempts to add wisdom. Others seem more inclined to roll down the hill of attack which is their right; however I must point out the heavy weight that falls on progress. The topic of Inner programming has a humble challenge that if anyone is able to simplify the lesson between conscious classifications and the remaining subconscious differences a great respect will be at hand.

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 2:23 pm

### september

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 9

About your question.
Maybe to let some thoughts through, you could continue with your earth shield metaphor and visualize the good thoughts you would like let through as geysers - hot water springs? Water is generally held as life-giving, and therefore it would be generally positive. Plus, geysers only allow for one-directional movement. So it wouldn't let your thoughts out. Or rather, wouldn't let bad thoughts in.
It makes sense to me, but let me know if I misunderstood your question.

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 2:45 pm

### an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

Interesting idea september. The geyser would act as a filter for thoughts while the concept fits confidence accordingly. How then would someone relate the visual of rushing water with thinking? Old faithful might have more uses then reliability lessons.

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 3:16 pm

### september

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 9

Well, as you referenced, Old Faithful supposedly goes off on a regular basis. So, like you said, it would boost self-esteem - you will be able to filter your thoughts successfully. However, thoughts stream continuously.
So perhaps you could imagine the filter as not a geyser, but a fountain? Or maybe a continuously spraying spring. Then envision that you're holding the plug to the fountain, or a giant cork to plug the spring.
However, that makes the solution seem so artificial.
What do you think, an__St? How can one define a naturally occurring solution?

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 4:14 pm

### an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

Well to be honest people say you should separate you from the continuous stream. For the most part I don't understand that. Thoughts cause me to react no matter how much I ground. Wonder what would happen if you started labeling the reactions so with practice you could just say "oh that was [insert word] not me". However it can't be that easy, what's your take september?

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 4:22 pm

### september

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 9

So maybe one shouldn't bother separating one's own emotions and reactions from all one's surrounding emotions. However, this bothers people.
But why does it bother people?
Surely emotion is only empowering. It is what makes people people, instead of unfeeling beings walking through life, unflinching. It allows for love hate happiness sadness. But knowing other thoughts... that is power, I suppose. So maybe we are simply refusing power on terms of courtesy, when by all means, we should probably know each other's thoughts. However, this process was probably devised (if it was devised) with the thought that people wouldn't be dishonest or keep secrets. So it has been lost...

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 4:45 pm

### an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

That reminds me of a business theory I've been applying to people. What is the most efficient way to get what I want? Not being big headed, or rather telling the person what they need to hear.
September I got a feel from that last post advice should be concealed somehow; meaning some answers aren?t for everyone. Is that the direction you intended?

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 4:59 pm

### september

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 9

I am in no position to tell anyone anything they need to hear and what they cannot know.

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Posted on Mon May 15, 2006 5:22 pm

### an__St

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 74

Well a self induced tranquilizer slows down everything
Moving with a more consistent speed I will address a direct question. Empathic overloads, as mentioned by SheepKing, are a reaction to memories not the memories themselves. Hope I got that right. Now shields, to my knowledge, are used to decrease the power of reactions and in time eliminate them.
Would building your shield over and over be more effective then holding a visual?

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