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Re: Pyro PK on Tue May 30, 2006 4:05 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

WaterMarine wrote:

PYROmatt wrote:
Hello. I am kinda new to the pyro PK thing so is there anyone who can actually light a flame, and if so how long did it take you and how do you do it?

According to what I've heard, PK isn't really making flames. It is the manipulation of them.

Pyro-PK is PK but focusing on the vibrations of molecules. Therefore, if you make the molecules in an object vibrate fast, it creates heat and (if you make it go fast enough) create fire. Pyro-PK is also the manipulation of fire. I have heard many arguements that manipulating the flame is PK or energy manipulation. You make up your own decision.

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i think that it is definitly possible to make a flame from thin air because all fire needs is oxygen which is in the air. There is a term that firemen use (i dont know what it is) but it is when there is a flame in a 2 story house and the fire is on the 1st floor, the heat would rise up to the 2nd floor and when the air gets too hot patches of fire start to light up in the air. So I think it is possible but you have to be very experienced and be able to maintain a steady flame.

When you light a match, what is burning? The wood of the match. Air helps the fire burn (as we all know) but it does not burn by itself.

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Isotope go look up on pure oxygen burn. On earth agree majority of the time oxygen will not burn but Look at one of the apollo mission's they used pure oxygen at the time and there was a major explosion, and the result of it was just a little spark in the air.
The only reason why we don't have oxygen burning down here is for 2 reasons, Nitrogen helps keep the explosive capabilities down which inturns increases the amount of heat that's needed to cause oxygen to explode/become into fireball.

This is true. But we are talking about down here in the earth air. Air would not burn by itself and so there really is no point in argueing that.

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[My guess would be roughly 10-15 miles, and starting a fire via remote viewing, again this is a dangerous ability and I wouldn't play around with it unless I knew what the hell I was doing!

Now if you can create a psiball anywhere and can do PK anywhere, what makes you think there is a limit on this?

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This is getting into combat guys......I wouldnt be tlking about how you can use two psionic techniques can be extremely dangerous when mixed.....but the best thing a pyro pk user could do would to be.....what ever their limit is.....theres not really a "best thing" that one division of psi can do because they can all be combined to make each other stronger...

Bladeslinger is semi right. What you guys are talking about is dangerous. Not nessisarily against someone but when you guys are talking about the potentual to hurt, it is considered combat. Kind of like suiside is illegal. Combat is even hurting yourself.

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 4:32 pm

### Joshy

Joined: 09 May 2006
Posts: 544

Apollo most of the stuff on this forum could be used to hurt, But isn't considered combat?
Everyones too edgy on here.
Theres LOADS of stuff in everyday life that has the potential to be harmful if used in the wrong way.
Warn me if you like, Its my opinion.

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 4:37 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

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Apollo most of the stuff on this forum could be used to hurt, But isn't considered combat?

there is a key word in the above sentence ^^
Could. when you come out right and say that it can hurt you, etc, that is to far. Telepathy, PK, OBE's, etc, cannot be used to hurt. If you use telepathic suggestion, yes. If you use PK such as throwing something at someone, yes. Otherwise no. That is why we lock those threads.

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 4:53 pm

### Joshy

Joined: 09 May 2006
Posts: 544

Apollo wrote:

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Apollo most of the stuff on this forum could be used to hurt, But isn't considered combat?

there is a key word in the above sentence ^^
Could. when you come out right and say that it can hurt you, etc, that is to far. Telepathy, PK, OBE's, etc, cannot be used to hurt. If you use telepathic suggestion, yes. If you use PK such as throwing something at someone, yes. Otherwise no. That is why we lock those threads.

I don't really get you..
"Pyro PK" or whatever, Isn't used for combat?
It's just the same as PK, Telepathy and alot of psionics.
Yes "Pyro PK" could be used to hurt. As could telepathy, Psi manipulation etc etc.

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 5:01 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

im talking about this:

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My guess would be roughly 10-15 miles, and starting a fire via remote viewing, again this is a dangerous ability and I wouldn't play around with it unless I knew what the hell I was doing!

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 5:03 pm

### Joshy

Joined: 09 May 2006
Posts: 544

Apollo wrote:

im talking about this:

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My guess would be roughly 10-15 miles, and starting a fire via remote viewing, again this is a dangerous ability and I wouldn't play around with it unless I knew what the hell I was doing!

Okay okay.
I can't actually be bothered anymore
Bitch of a headache, but yeah. Accidents are bad

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Posted on Wed May 31, 2006 10:19 pm

### Nightshade

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Posts: 421

PYROmatt wrote:
There is a term that firemen use (i dont know what it is) but it is when there is a flame in a 2 story house and the fire is on the 1st floor, the heat would rise up to the 2nd floor and when the air gets too hot patches of fire start to light up in the air.

i think the term you are looking for is convection (or radiation).

MacrusT wrote:
My guess would be roughly 10-15 miles, and starting a fire via remote viewing, again this is a dangerous ability and I wouldn't play around with it unless I knew what the hell I was doing!

i'm not too sure that you can physically effect things with remote viewing. i believe this is a more passive skill that allows you to "view" "remote" objects/scenes. so, i'm pretty sure that the max effect would be augmenting the size of a very small ember to a forest fire. creating a fire is PK, i don't care what anyone says. creating a fire involves vigorously vibrating atoms until you reach combustion, so that isn't considered "pyro PK," which is the manipulation of fire.

wizana wrote:
Also, it is much easier to make the fire go out, then to make it relight. Months is my answer. Pure concentration is the key.

this is because making the fire go out is using actual "pyro PK" to decrease the flame until it goes out. lighting the flame is using PK to vibrate the atoms intensly until the object combusts, which, needless to say is a lot harder and more advanced than just manipulating fire.
i hope i helped to shed some light and enlighten you on this topic

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Posted on Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:11 pm

### Stallone

Joined: 06 Apr 2006
Posts: 43

MarcusT wrote:
I once had a dream a long time ago dunno if it was lucid or not, but of being a master fire starter and I haven't tried using those techniques, still remember em clearly to. Lets just say it scares the shit out of me and no way will I mention what they were.

I once had a dream were i could manipulate air. I could manipulate weather and make tornados, and compress aire into little steps so i cud jump higher etc. All i rember doing when i was dreaming was concentrating to makes them.

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Posted on Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:57 pm

### jklo318

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 194

Yeah imagine when you are and old grandpa. When your grandchildren come over and you say look what I can do. though the cool thing is you would be able to light all your candels

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Posted on Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:53 am

### Stupplecrout

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 14

I have gotten this to work once and so far thats it. As I recall there are 4 things you need for fire. You need oxygen, heat, combustible material (Fuel), and the proper conditions. So, you ignore the last one, because there is a pretty broad range of temperatures and humidities and air pressures that things will still burn at.
What I did was this: I visualized fire igniting the candle I had out. I kept that going on the back burner the entire time. Then I imagined all the oxygen molecules around the candle gathering next to the wick. I imagined everything within an inch of the wick that was not made of wax to be covered in oxygen molecules. (BTW oxygen molecules are two oxygen atoms paired together by valence electrons In other words kinda like (OXO) if that makes sence) I visualized the area about 95 percent oxygen particles, and the rest were hydrogen (Highly flamable). Then I visualized them all swirling around the wick, touching it, causing friction. I kind of felt the candle heat up, and then I got this sort of click feeling and it lit. I timed it with a stopwatch and it only took about 30 sec. I suggest those interested try it.

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Posted on Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:31 pm

### Kaiandy

Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 109

I was sitting outside with my friend james the other day smoking cigarettes, and their was an old matchbook in the ashtray...so obviously, i had to try and light it.
I was holding the lighter on and the flame was going, and i decided, "lets see if i can make it bigger"....
I pull it away from the matchbook (which was empty, btw) and look at the flame for around 5 seconds when it starts to jump and spark up for maybe 2 seconds, and then dies back down...Pretty sweet.
I couldn't duplicate it though. It was my first attempt at fire manipulation, thus beginners luck.

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Posted on Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:42 pm

### Nightshade

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Posts: 421

a good way to practice actual pyro pk (as in the manipulation of fire, not the creation) is to make a small fire, like a camp fire. let the wood die down into embers, and see if you can flare an ember into a flame. any flame would be progress, and this is considered pyro pk. you can also start the fire, and while it is still relatively small, try to augment the flames, or die them down. i practice this a lot and get great results.

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Posted on Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:14 pm

### FrostBitten

Joined: 22 May 2006
Posts: 165

PYROmatt wrote:
i think that it is definitly possible to make a flame from thin air because all fire needs is oxygen which is in the air.

That's all that EXISTING fire needs to survive, you will need a spark, a flamable substance (no oxygen isn't good enough) then you will be set.

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Posted on Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:25 am

### PYROmatt

Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 67

Oh, ok, now I understand. Well I guess you can use PK to make a flamable substance float on your hand, then light it.

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Posted on Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:32 am

### Nightshade

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Posts: 421

that would still be regular PK, or psychokinesis. you are exciting the atoms inside the object (in this case a flamable substance) in order for it to combust. you are moving an object (although minutly, vibrating) which is still psychokinesis. pyro PK is moving, increasing, manipulating existing fire, or an ember of some sort (like a cigarrette cherry, or a hot coal, ect...) and that's it.

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