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Crazy idea on Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:58 am

### Gloaming

Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 38

Ok I have a bit of a crazy idea, I hope this hasn't been posted before. I'm no expert but in an article I read atoms consisted out of energy. Well if this is true can't we create atoms out of this energy by manipulating it? We could create molecules out of thin air. Could solve lots of problems. I know it's a crazy idea. But theoretically it could be possible. Tell me what you think of my idea.
Gloaming,

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Posted on Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:46 pm

### Pricemac

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 90

Dun wanna burst your bubble, but theoretically, it isn't possible. Matter can neither be created or destroyed. Same with energy. And, you must have read wrong, because last time I checked, matter could become energy, but atoms are not only energy, they have a mass.

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Posted on Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:13 pm

### Gloaming

Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 38

Well too bad. So much for my nobel prize, I could try eh

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:23 pm

### Pricemac

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 90

Yeh... not bad though! If only eh? I could deal with the prize myself, I'm broke!

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:01 pm

### SilentObserver

Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 30

Actually nuclear bombs make matter into energy that is why they are so powerful but to actually create matter you would need massive amounts of energy. The formula that just about everyone know E = MC squared is how this realization came about way back when and the first nukes were designed. And as for matter not being created or destroyed it is only transferred into energy which is all by the rules. Look at here for more explanation http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/emc1.htm

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:06 pm

### Vladimir

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 666

If you've ever watched the film "Young Einstein" you'll know that Einstein blew up a shed when he split a single beer atom. That's a lot of energy for one atom. I doubt it's possible to psionically create even one.

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:34 pm

### Aero_Maniac

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 26

This is something thats always interested me, and I've spent many of my spare moments churning this around in my head. The conclusion I've come to is that it IS possible, but wouldn't work (if you catch my drift). Like SilentObserver said, it would most likely take a hell of a lot of energy (take the mass of the item you want to "materialise" and multiply it my the speed of light [300,000,000 m/s] squared. Not sure what units the equation is speaking in but thats a load of stuff). This could probably also happen in reverse, i.e. you can dematerialise an atom by stealing energy from it. But I think that eventually the atom would reach a certain mass that it would fall apart (perhaps like a radioactive particle but maybe like an atomic bomb). This would also mean that when you were "assembling" an atom from energy, you would need to get a certain amount of energy in a certain space in a certain amount of time (likely on the scale of picoseconds) to make the atom stable enough to actually become a full-blown atom. So, like I said at the beginning, its possible but wouldn't work (well, if what I think is right anyhow).

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:34 pm

### LOTRfool

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 518

Vladimir wrote:
If you've ever watched the film "Young Einstein" you'll know that Einstein blew up a shed when he split a single beer atom. That's a lot of energy for one atom. I doubt it's possible to psionically create even one.

Lol, are you serious?
Anyways, let me put it this way:
The sun shining for one day on earth is equal to a 2.2 Kilogram weight. Solve for that, and find how much is in one atom (Lol, I sure can't).

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:00 pm

### megan189

Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 25

Atom bombs are turning matter into energy, and it doesn't take that much matter.
To make matter we would need to take the energy of an atomic bomb and turn it into a small amount of matter.
We could get every psion and we still couldn't conjure up a cup of beer...

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:11 pm

### shantoruk

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 10

Amount of energy required to lift a 1 kg (kilogram) brick 1 m (metre) up in earth's gravity: roughly 9.8 J (Joules)
Amount of matter you could create with that energy: roughly 0.000000000000000109 kg
If it were possible, another way could be to have some source matter (sand, for example), change that into energy and then back into a different kind of matter. Then there's the question - how much energy can anyone direct, even if they don't have to produce it themselves?

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:48 pm

### Thanatos

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 249

Some of you people have no idea what your talking about.

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Posted on Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:03 pm

### mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

Thanatos, if all you're going to do is complain about how people know nothing, you're not helping whatsoever.
And it makes you look like a big baby.
Matter can be created, can't it? I thought it just needs a huge amount of force to be able to do so. Like...not huge. But, insanely large, past the point of comprehension 'large'.

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Posted on Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:08 pm

### Vyaschlofisc

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 52

shantoruk wrote:
If it were possible, another way could be to have some source matter (sand, for example), change that into energy and then back into a different kind of matter. Then there's the question - how much energy can anyone direct, even if they don't have to produce it themselves?

Damn, I was gonna say that. I've actually been thinking about the same thing for a while.
Another idea I had was to find an insanely abundant energy source (like the sun) and convert some of that energy into matter. I have no idea if it would work, and I'll probably never try it, but if someone else wants to figure out how to do it I'd love to hear about the results.

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Posted on Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:18 am

### Thanatos

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 249

mattz1010 wrote:
Thanatos, if all you're going to do is complain about how people know nothing, you're not helping whatsoever. And it makes you look like a big baby. Matter can be created, can't it? I thought it just needs a huge amount of force to be able to do so. Like...not huge. But, insanely large, past the point of comprehension 'large'.

Matter + AntiMatter = Photons
Photons = Matter + AntiMatter
Force? Force has nothing to do with it. Matter cannot be created, even in the big bang theory in essence "Nothing" does not exist. Read up.

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Posted on Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:10 pm

### LOTRfool

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 518

Thanatos wrote:
Matter + AntiMatter = Photons Photons = Matter + AntiMatter Force? Force has nothing to do with it. Matter cannot be created, even in the big bang theory in essence "Nothing" does not exist. Read up.

Wow, so that is how you make photons out of matter...
Now, where do we read up. And can you give me a link for that photon and matter equation? Thank you in advance.

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