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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:17 pm

### Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

You guys just don't get the point of revealing or how to do it. No shit everybody has revealed to some friends or stuff. All that does is give you a bad rep though. You gotta reveal to the strangers. Not just spread it to people who you think can "handle" it. If you protect yourself and keep yourself secretive then there are NO drawbacks. I already explained the NUMEROUS advantages too. This has been good research though. It gives some insight into why psionics is so small.

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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:52 pm

### bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

ummm who do you think the people who think you're insane when they here you? people who dont actually know you....but my point is that we should reveal slowly...like have small debates on how stuff like psi is real or how humans aren't fully understood so it could be possible....when the people ask you where you get yuor info then you can say "psipog.net of course!" so they actually see the proof...you've partly convinced me that it could help to prepare people for this but I'm still with waiting until we try to spread it on a more widespread level.....the numbers are still growing no matter how slowly

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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:45 pm

### SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

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You guys just don't get the point of revealing or how to do it.

You're right about one thing, I don't have any idea what the point of revealing Psi is. You want to impress people or something? Or let them tap into the "vast" *Chuckles* amounts of powers and usefulness *chuckles again* it grants you?

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No shit everybody has revealed to some friends or stuff. All that does is give you a bad rep though.

Not necessarily, I've had several friends, and currently still have them, who are quite impressed and think it's cool that I can do psychic stuff.

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You gotta reveal to the strangers. Not just spread it to people who you think can "handle" it.

Ok, why do I have to reveal it to strangers? I think you have a very fucked up view of what kind of responsibilities we have for tampering with our psychic abilities.

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If you protect yourself and keep yourself secretive then there are NO drawbacks.

This is where you have misconceptions about "us". I quoted it because everyone on the sight is different, and your sweeping generalizations are quite stupid. No one I am aware of is HIDING, or AFRAID of what someone is going to do to them because of Psychic abilities.

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This has been good research though. It gives some insight into why psionics is so small.

Some 60+ posts later, and I don't think you have learned ONE THING.

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Posted on Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:16 pm

### sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

SheepKing, you're completely SERVING this guy.
He's got it backwards. You don't go "revealing" Psi to complete strangers, because it makes you seem too much like those crazy street preachers who shout "Repent, for the end is nigh!" in the middle of downtown.
Rather, if you think someone might be into it, tell them the straightforward truth. It just makes more sense.
And nobody I know is afraid or hiding the fact that they're a Psi either. They just go about their lives, not caring who knows. It's how I live, and how my Psi friends live as well.
Personally, I think this topic has more than run its course. But that's just my $0.02.

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Posted on Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:03 pm

### PouncingKavu

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 57

Good job, sergeant. That's how I think, and these edgewalkers; those who could be easily pushed into believing, are the ones we need to look for. Demonstrations work in convincing people, it only creates people who are aware. Demonstrations demoralize people and so they don't practice because they can only think of how they will never become as good as the demonstrator. You have to talk it out! Demonstrations are bad! You have to find these "edgewalkers," they are the only ones useful to those who want to reveal. I have experience here; I am not making this up.
And I don't know, sheepking did some damage to him, it seems. He's definitely not on anyone's side, it seems to me.
By the way, Niushirra, I told you to stop saying, "recruit." It's how I find your accounts on any forum. It's whoever has said "recruit" the most. Find a new favorite word, and this time, have it make sense.

mattz1010 wrote:
every nanosecond (shortest timeframe I can think of right now...I think femosecond is smaller.), a huge amount of 'universes' are created, as possibilities appear. Your 'entity' follows one path of the universes.

For the record, I call the shortest unit of time an "instant." It is a completely still picture, a "frame" of the universe. If this is right, then the smallest unit of matter is a point (I don't know what this actually is), and so the ultimate speed would be one point per instant. If all of the above is correct, then that "ultimate speed" is the speed of light. I also call another dimension in which there is a different outcome (you have to believe that chaos exists first, which I do), I call it an "eye." Okay, that's just an idea I came up with, anyway, back on topic...

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Posted on Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:34 pm

### bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

sgtpsion wrote:

SheepKing, you're completely SERVING this guy.
He's got it backwards. You don't go "revealing" Psi to complete strangers, because it makes you seem too much like those crazy street preachers who shout "Repent, for the end is nigh!" in the middle of downtown.
Rather, if you think someone might be into it, tell them the straightforward truth. It just makes more sense.
And nobody I know is afraid or hiding the fact that they're a Psi either. They just go about their lives, not caring who knows. It's how I live, and how my Psi friends live as well.
Personally, I think this topic has more than run its course. But that's just my $0.02.

I share sgt's opinion since he worded it better than I do and I also agree with mattz since I also believe in chaos

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Posted on Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:51 pm

### mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

PouncingKavu wrote:

mattz1010 wrote:
every nanosecond (shortest timeframe I can think of right now...I think femosecond is smaller.), a huge amount of 'universes' are created, as possibilities appear. Your 'entity' follows one path of the universes.

For the record, I call the shortest unit of time an "instant." It is a completely still picture, a "frame" of the universe. If this is right, then the smallest unit of matter is a point (I don't know what this actually is), and so the ultimate speed would be one point per instant. If all of the above is correct, then that "ultimate speed" is the speed of light. I also call another dimension in which there is a different outcome (you have to believe that chaos exists first, which I do), I call it an "eye." Okay, that's just an idea I came up with, anyway, back on topic...

Ah, the smallest measurement of time is an 'attosecond'....a billionth of a billionth of a second.
Yeah, that small. The shortest lifespan of some molecules is 42 attoseconds.
Yeah, short.
And, by entity, I meant consciousness...but it's WAY too late to edit my original post.
Niu: We're not recruiting people, this is not a war.

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Posted on Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:47 pm

### Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

Wow, I really overestimated all of you. Every psion is just a conservative fool. You all think psi should be a selective thing for selected people. Everybody knows psi can be done by everybody but it seems it can't Only selected people can practice psi because they are the people who are "ready." I guess the point of revealing psi really dosen't have a purpose though. It just feels like the right thing to do. Don't tell me a feeling is bad, psionics is based on feelings and instincts. The truth is clear now about psi's popularity. It is not well known not because no one cares but because psions are reclusive, conservative, outcasts. This topic really has run its course and served its purpose.

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Posted on Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:16 pm

### mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

^ Rantings from a depressed, raging individual, making absolutely biased claims.
And you know what? The world isn't ready for psi on a larger scale.
Maybe we should deal with the problems of shallowness and mass stupidity first.
It isn't well known because making psi well known is a stupid idea.
If you create a topic, you don't own the thread. I'm sorry to have to say that, but it's true.

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Posted on Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:43 pm

### bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

Niushirra wrote:
Wow, I really overestimated all of you. Every psion is just a conservative fool. You all think psi should be a selective thing for selected people. Everybody knows psi can be done by everybody but it seems it can't Only selected people can practice psi because they are the people who are "ready." I guess the point of revealing psi really dosen't have a purpose though. It just feels like the right thing to do. Don't tell me a feeling is bad, psionics is based on feelings and instincts. The truth is clear now about psi's popularity. It is not well known not because no one cares but because psions are reclusive, conservative, outcasts. This topic really has run its course and served its purpose.

just a question..what techniques have you succesfully done...for TO it could be just guess a few shapes or colors in a row...ANYTHING of one technique will count..please list a few...I'm saying this because you may not know the potential(both good and bad) of the skill....but if you do then...I have no idea why you want to do this...

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Posted on Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:36 pm

### Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

bladeslinger wrote:

Niushirra wrote:
Wow, I really overestimated all of you. Every psion is just a conservative fool. You all think psi should be a selective thing for selected people. Everybody knows psi can be done by everybody but it seems it can't Only selected people can practice psi because they are the people who are "ready." I guess the point of revealing psi really dosen't have a purpose though. It just feels like the right thing to do. Don't tell me a feeling is bad, psionics is based on feelings and instincts. The truth is clear now about psi's popularity. It is not well known not because no one cares but because psions are reclusive, conservative, outcasts. This topic really has run its course and served its purpose.

just a question..what techniques have you succesfully done...for TO it could be just guess a few shapes or colors in a row...ANYTHING of one technique will count..please list a few...I'm saying this because you may not know the potential(both good and bad) of the skill....but if you do then...I have no idea why you want to do this...

I really don't understand most of what you're saying based on shit grammer but I think I got the main idea. I practiced telepathy for a while but never got very far on account of all of my practicing partners dropped out of psionics. I then went into macro PK and can spin psiwheels pretty well now. Well, not well; only sometimes I can get them going and when I do it's just a little bit and they still could be flukes. Everything I have done with psi could be flukes since nothing is to large scale yet. The only real proof I have for myself is people on the site helped me find something with their RV skills.

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Posted on Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:52 pm

### SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

I really hate having to do this, but :

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Wow, I really overestimated all of you. Every psion is just a conservative fool.

Well, so far as I can tell, you jump to conclusions a lot. So, your opinion on "Every psion" doesn't really count too much to me. Not to mention your sweeping generalization is quite wrong. So, let me get this straight. We are fools because we don't find it necessary to "Share" psi with other people to get them into it? Like I said before, I have "shared" psi with many other people, 90% of them where not so interested.

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Everybody knows psi can be done by everybody but it seems it can't Only selected people can practice psi because they are the people who are "ready."

We are not missionaries, we are not an army, we do not "recruit" people. We do not activly seek other people to show them Psi because we want to share our great "gifts" with the world. No one every said only people who are "ready" can practice psi. Another great generalization about our attitudes from you.

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I guess the point of revealing psi really dosen't have a purpose though. It just feels like the right thing to do. Don't tell me a feeling is bad, psionics is based on feelings and instincts.

You're right, there really is no purpose. And, though, sometimes things feel like they are the right thing to do it is not always the "right" thing to do. I'm not saying sharing Psi is wrong, it indeed is not. Rather, we must not maintain an attitude like we must share it with the world, simply because, if they where interested, there are sufficient resources to find out about it. And for Psionics being based on "feelings and instincts", this is true to a degree. But it is not the same feelings or instincts that makes us say "Yes this is right." or "No, this is wrong."

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The truth is clear now about psi's popularity. It is not well known not because no one cares but because psions are reclusive, conservative, outcasts.

I think you are wrong... And maybe you don't notice, but it seems to me that Psi is becoming slightly more popular over time . It is not well known because it's on the fringe of science, and nothing "Sprouts up overnight". Again, I am not reclusive, I am not so conservative, and I'm not quite an outcast. Another great generalization from you, that is slightly offensive. Perhaps not only to me, as well.
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I do not intend this post, or any of my posts to offend you Niushirra. I only want to provide you with sufficient counter examples to show you that your logic in this argument is flawed.

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Posted on Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:36 pm

### bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

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Wow, I really overestimated all of you. Every psion is just a conservative fool.

....hmmm aren't YOU a psion?..and many many things that are barely known are gathering popularity through the internet, including psi. We cannot rush these things..think of a band directer directing the band on the tempo, they cant rush or drag or else their song will get off...our directer would be the outside world...most of the time they're dragging so we must drag in turn..when they get to the right tempo then revealing will be easier...when the rush it will be insane

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Posted on Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:41 pm

### Lucidess

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 837

Just gotta go with the flow ^_^
Since i got into Psi, i started talking about it alot to everyone. My friends think i'm a little weird, strangers or acquintances are rather skeptical, as they've only heard about it, but never seen it. i've gotten some people to making a psi ball for starters. I don't think showing strangers psi is a good idea, i think actually being friends with them would be a much better idea. If i were to ever show ANYONE how to use psi, it would be my close friends.

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Posted on Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:56 pm

### Niushirra

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 299

bladeslinger wrote:

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Wow, I really overestimated all of you. Every psion is just a conservative fool.

....hmmm aren't YOU a psion?..and many many things that are barely known are gathering popularity through the internet, including psi. We cannot rush these things..think of a band directer directing the band on the tempo, they cant rush or drag or else their song will get off...our directer would be the outside world...most of the time they're dragging so we must drag in turn..when they get to the right tempo then revealing will be easier...when the rush it will be insane

I don't count. I was pulled into psionics. I am not a psion that looked for psi.

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