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Posted on Sat May 13, 2006 7:11 pm

### Vileru

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 57

I agree with you, Apollo. Our mind perceives weight, barriers, and size as a limit to our ability. However, one can learn to dispel or overcome these notions.
Imagine that from a young age that you grew up in an environment in which you were taught about meditation and psi-energy. Would your mindset of the world around you be very different? Of course! As human beings, we find it much easier to learn things, than to unlearn and overcome them. Many people spend their entire lives battling things such as stress, fear, and anxieties.
I imagine most people's psi training is progressive. Once you first start up on the psi-wheel, it will be difficult because it's an entirely new concept. Once you get the hang of it and you progress onto other objects, you will get more and more comfortable as you move heavier and larger objects. While yes, you cannot go from the psi-wheel to a boulder, but I'm sure once you master a few objects; you will become more comfortable and confident in moving other objects. As with all things, you will progress from a novice to a master.

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Posted on Sat May 13, 2006 7:56 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

one problem with your theory of if someone grows up with psi is this:
If the person ever pushed/picked up anything in their life then they would know what weight is. They would see that pushing a light object is easier than pushing a heavy object. Yes, they would understand that weight has no effect to tk but they would know that it is harder to move heavy things. When they go on to try something new, that knowledge will popup and will effect them.

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Posted on Sat May 13, 2006 9:07 pm

### Vileru

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 57

While that is very true, one who grows with a background in psi, will be more familiar with it and would have an easier time overcoming their perception of weight.
However, what I'm trying to get to is that psi is a progressive learning in which you get better and better and you get faster at adapting to new situations as you get more experience.
The best example I can think of is of someone who plays fighting or strategy games (Street Fighter, Starcraft, etc). When they first start, they are inexperienced and when they are approached by an unknown strategy, they're stumped. When one gains experience, confidence, and comfort in their skills, then they have an easier time to adapt to a new situation that they have not experienced before. The best players who have mastered these games can recognize and analyze an opponent strategy immensely faster than a novice player.
With their experience comes the ability to adapt faster to new situations, which I believe is possible with psi as well.

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Posted on Sat May 13, 2006 9:20 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

very very very good example. If it means anything, you have gained my respect.

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. on Tue May 16, 2006 7:45 pm

### Dbizket

Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 85

I want to learn telekinesis because it's just one more skill that people know that I want to.
I don't think we have limits

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Posted on Fri May 19, 2006 2:00 pm

### ahmed1

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 367

i thought that we have limits in tk but what Apollo and Vileru said mean that we dont have limits and it maybe right but if that true then first step we need is just move the psi wheel to believe in tk then the next step we need is that we try by all costs and all ways to remove from our minds the idea of size and weight so we will be experts in tk and can move anything in the world .
back to the main questions :
1. why do you want to have telekinesis?
ofcours it is cool and i believed that we can do telekinesis before i do it or maybe it was my desire that make me think so and i like that stuffs , looking forward to levitate myself and fly .
2. and do you think we have limits? move a car? a person? or just little things?
i realy dont know i dont have enough informations to say we have limits or not but my personal thoughts i think we have limits and they are temporary you can remove that limits by practice and when you become better and passed that limits you will go to the next higher temporary limits and every new higher limits will be harder to pass .

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Posted on Fri May 19, 2006 2:26 pm

### eu_citzen

Joined: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 53

1. why do you want to have telekinesis?
to see if it's real,and to learn others(help people?)
2. and do you think we have limits? move a car? a person? or just little things?
the only limit is your imagination..

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Posted on Fri May 19, 2006 3:20 pm

### maddok

Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 24

1.I am a big reader and the type of books i read the most are fantasy(with all the powers and stuff) and i would like to do something like that stuff. Plus is cool
2.I agree with Sheepking we have to push our limits to continue further.

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Posted on Fri May 19, 2006 5:00 pm

### terrancoleman

Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 102

1. beacause i do not liked to be ignored by anything even objects
2.weight is irrelevant

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Posted on Fri May 19, 2006 5:26 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

ahmed1 wrote:
i thought that we have limits in tk but what Apollo and Vileru said mean that we dont have limits and it maybe right but if that true then first step we need is just move the psi wheel to believe in tk then the next step we need is that we try by all costs and all ways to remove from our minds the idea of size and weight so we will be experts in tk and can move anything in the world .

My support for what i have said is the story of Neveza. He never started on the psiwheel and yet can move trashcans. That shows something there!

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Posted on Sat May 20, 2006 5:04 am

### ahmed1

Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 367

yea i thought about that too that there are fumos people with tk and they can do strong tk can bend spoons and do other stuff better then psi wheel , my idea is that they done that before they practice or they practiced first then reached to that level .
but there is other idea is that some people are strong by natural and other people are weak by natural . so that is confusing .
edit: by the way some other stuff happen to us like when you get very angry then say shut up or other thing then in the same time the electristy cut off that happened to me like 5 or 4 times so i tell myself did i done that or it was coincedant , and i say it happened to me alot it cant be coincedant then i say i only move the psi wheel how i can make the electristy cut off .
so i still dont know if we have limits or we dont .

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Posted on Sat May 20, 2006 1:16 pm

### specialkid713

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 26

1. To know the potential of man-kind.
2. The limits depend on the person. If they are lazy, they will have many limits, if they are hopeful, and attemptful, they should reach for the stars...

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Re: why and do you? on Sat May 20, 2006 1:41 pm

### Joshy

Joined: 09 May 2006
Posts: 544

carrie_white wrote:
1. why do you want to have telekinesis? 2. and do you think we have limits? move a car? a person? or just little things?

I'm not sure why I want it actually.. It's an extra skill?
As for the limits thing..eh..
Im sure we'll have limits one day with PK..
But for now I don't think we're ANYWHERE near them

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Posted on Sat May 20, 2006 1:58 pm

### UltimateBlob

Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 172

I want to learn PK to see what I/we are capable of, to develop some theories, and because it's addictive!
One day, there will have to be ethical limits imposed on psionics when people are able to murder with psi, or push the earth out of orbit etc, but hopefully by then we will all be living in a far more spiritual society.

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Posted on Sun May 21, 2006 9:54 pm

### terrancoleman

Joined: 01 May 2006
Posts: 102

that the first timei heard someone say tk is addictive

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