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Posted on Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:42 am

### Telekinetist

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 16

Thanks, NI
I had the problem described above, where I couldent move on from the psiwheel because I had looked for so many different types of effect in it. When I would attempt pencils, I could periodically feel that it could work, but the mindset didnt come with the same expectation, and I eventually gave up. Ill practice this state of mind you gave to us, and see what I can make of it in myself. Thanks again.

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Posted on Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:40 am

### Vladimir

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 666

Psykiller, you can't move cars. Shut up.

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Posted on Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:45 pm

### PotentiaL

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 46

Vladimir wrote:
Psykiller, you can't move cars. Shut up.

whoa man, I think you could relax a little bit.
So he said he moved a car door. I'm not going to argue what I personally think is possible here but cut him some slack. What if he did? If you think he's lying just ignore it.

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Posted on Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:42 pm

### Eldibs

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 909

It has nothing to do with the possibility of moving car doors. It's that PsykillerX has posted tons of fluff in the past, which throws everthing he posts into question.

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Posted on Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:04 pm

### PotentiaL

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 46

Eldibs wrote:
It has nothing to do with the possibility of moving car doors. It's that PsykillerX has posted tons of fluff in the past, which throws everthing he posts into question.

Consider that noted, thanks eldibs.

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Posted on Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:28 pm

### Eldibs

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 909

No problem.

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Posted on Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:30 pm

### Vladimir

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 666

Actually, when I said he couldn't move cars, I meant logs. His lack of punctuation made it difficult to tell what he was talking about.
I still don't believe the car door bit though.

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PsykillerX on Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:47 pm

### Xiouslaidyn

Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 194

He's only harming himself by posting nonsense. I do not mean to disclaim him, but his claims are rather farfetched, and while I can't say for certain that he's lying, it's definitely a favorable probability.
But really guys, who cares? Him and more than likely some other people out there are just living little fairy tales through the chat and forums of psipog.net. They probably would really like to be able to do such "fantastical" things as psychokinesis, but because they view those things as "supernatural" or "inconcievable" or "fantasies and imaginings", it gets to them, and pollutes their minds. Then they start to lie about it, and in serious cases, they probably even convince themselves it's true.
I've witnessed lots of whack sh*t in my time, but i'm not claiming responsibility for any of it. Thing is though, weird things happen all the time, and that's a fact. So I just find it hard to completely discredit even nutbars like Psykiller.
Someday, maybe I'll move a paperclip, and i'll be sure to tell you all about it... but if I ever am able to move a car door or a tv set or whatever, I think I'll keep that to myself, lol.

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Posted on Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:19 pm

### Eldibs

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 909

It's not that we care whether or not he lives in a fantasy world, we just don't want him pulling other people into that fantasy world with him.

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Posted on Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:37 pm

### bjvanwash

Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Posts: 24

Not_Important : Have you ever thought about writing a book? What you said was so eye catching and inspirtaional. There are not a lot of books out there about PK from what I have noticed, so you should wirte or book or two and see what happens.

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Posted on Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:14 am

### keithd

Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 49

Not_Important wrote:
It's just an intention in your inner self.

I really appreciate that comment! Our subconcious seems to be free to direct so much more change than our concious mind. I would guess that this is because of the years of conditioning we have undergone, which tell us "PK is not possible" or perhaps, that you must physically interact with an object to cause it's motion. You see it every single day: somebody wants to pick something up, so they reach down and grab it with their hand.
We are subject to literally millions of these little clues that our mind gathers and accepts. If you want to move something, you've got to touch it. Your subconcious mind is not subject to this training in the same manner, however, and it takes far less work to free it from that assumption.
I love the way you've explained it, NI. The concepts are definately legit, even if the skeptics don't like your snapshots.
Keep up the awesome work!

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Posted on Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:10 pm

### Novice

Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 6

NI, it took me some time to learn the "just do it" approach to TK, and I only figured it out after a good bit of *--No effect at all--* It's thanks to the insight you provided that I am now successful at TK, and this post has helped me reach even further. Thanks man.

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Posted on Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:28 am

### Not_Important

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 95

I'm glad to hear that. Keep up the good work

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Posted on Sun May 14, 2006 10:30 pm

### Irv

Joined: 12 May 2006
Posts: 8

NI, you are truly inspirational. I love your work and I too suggest that you write a book about your experiences and techniques. I for one would definetely buy it. Thanks for all the information, it's a great help.

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Posted on Sat May 20, 2006 12:16 pm

### Misery

Joined: 09 May 2006
Posts: 11

Hey NI, this opened up my mind a bit, and I'm pretty certain that I'll be able to finally achieve TK again soon, after I rest my tired and pounding head of course. I remember just letting go a year ago after I gained the concentration, looking at it and watching it do what it did. I didn't care what direction it moved in, I just wanted it to move.
But then, I came out of the bathroom one day and it was moving, seemingly by itself. Usually it only moved if I sat in a certain place with my hand around it, so I got suspicious that it was the wind, like I had found an air flow in my room that I couldn't detect but had been moving it this entire time. So I tried to move it under something. That didn't work, so I gave up completely. But now I'm back, not sure why in particular I came back....I just really want Telekinesis
My ultimate goal is to move something that cannot be moved by wind, to fully convince myself. Actually I'd be satisfied just seeing someone in person move a pencil, that way I could finally get rid of the mental block in my mind that hinders me so greatly, but I doubt there's anyone who can do that in the Sacramento area.
Thanks NI, hopefully I can move the psi-wheel for the first time....Again....

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