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"Real or Fake?" Threads! on Tue May 30, 2006 6:56 pm

### sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

I've been cruising the forums for a while now, and I've noticed a lot of threads like, "Psychokinesis: real or fake?" and "Otherkin real or fake?"
These threads tend to get locked pretty quick. So I was thinking, why don't we just not make threads that are solely for the purpose of debating the legitimacy of something we can't prove or disprove in completeness?

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 7:07 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

Psychokinesis is fake. Prove me wrong. (just to start off the topic)

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 7:58 pm

### bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

*slaps with white glove*I challenge you to a duel Apollo!.....of uhhh...words, yea that's it

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 8:07 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

im serious. I will argue the other side but instead of being a personal attacking skeptic, i willl be nice. It will be fun! Yay fun!

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 8:59 pm

### MarcusT

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 227

If PK was fake, then how does all those statistics on dice rolling, end up the way they are considering that for a 100 rolls of a 6 number dice that each number should come up 17 times other then 2 numbers only being 16 times by the laws of averages. There have been multiple document cases where the manipulated number has only come up less then 10 times and or more then 25 times on a 100 roll test.
Also, how about the fact that there are also studies shown that there will be a certain numbers of 1 and 0 on a floppy disk and the psion is suppose to alter the number of those two numbers and then when the floppy disk is put back in that it's frequently have a completely different amount of 1's and 0's then was origionally recorded. Also on the same series of tests, there are also correlation shown of the pattern is altered.
Just a little food for thought for those of you that wish to say that PK doesn't exist. If it doesn't exist, how is it that there are whole communities dedicated to the discussion of this, and capable of abnormal movements of objects that the laws of physics do not and can not account for.

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 9:37 pm

### paraplayer

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 147

the funny thing about arguing with someone is that they can twist their logic so much as to make sense and be wrong at the same time:
"If PK was fake, then how does all those statistics on dice rolling, end up the way they are considering that for a 100 rolls of a 6 number dice that each number should come up 17 times other then 2 numbers only being 16 times by the laws of averages. There have been multiple document cases where the manipulated number has only come up less then 10 times and or more then 25 times on a 100 roll test. "
Pfft you unconsciencly (sp?) roll it like that with your hand!
"Also, how about the fact that there are also studies shown that there will be a certain numbers of 1 and 0 on a floppy disk and the psion is suppose to alter the number of those two numbers and then when the floppy disk is put back in that it's frequently have a completely different amount of 1's and 0's then was origionally recorded. Also on the same series of tests, there are also correlation shown of the pattern is altered. "
Pfft you were using Windows!
"Just a little food for thought for those of you that wish to say that PK doesn't exist. If it doesn't exist, how is it that there are whole communities dedicated to the discussion of this, and capable of abnormal movements of objects that the laws of physics do not and can not account for."
Pfft you're all deluding yourselves!
haha this will be fun.

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 10:45 pm

### sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

This is absolutely NOT what I intended to start, but your points are valid nontheless.
I'd like it if you guys didn't simulate a debate, as it can turn to a flame-war on a dime. Instead, can we just discuss it?

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Posted on Tue May 30, 2006 11:27 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

ug, fine.

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Posted on Wed May 31, 2006 11:51 am

### bladeslinger

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 1337

So, if pk weren't real then what could be doing this?

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Posted on Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:25 am

### lvl_1_psi_power

Joined: 13 Feb 2006
Posts: 87

Ghosts and aliens maybe?

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Posted on Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:45 am

### PK_11

Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 142

If I was a ghost, I'd obviously have nothing better to do then make people think they can move things... >_>

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Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:23 pm

### Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

Quote:
So, if pk weren't real then what could be doing this?

Delusion? As in you want it to be real so much that you blow on the psiwheel but it doesn't register in your mind. So in effect you see the psiwheel moving but not that you've blown on it (pretty far fetched I know)

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Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:32 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

again, as i have said in past threads, how is it an illusion if i put the pencil down in one place and pick it up in another. Fine, wind. What about a hole-puncher? It would be pretty hard to blow on that and have it move.

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Posted on Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:46 pm

### PeBubble

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 69

hmm i can't spin the psi-wheel, or should i say, i can't spin it very well? today i made some progres...
it became a bit faster and a bit slower and faster... windows were closed and i've held my breath...
and even if i blow, it wouldn't only rotate but also whip up and down on the sides...
now what could move it? heat?
the way the psi-wheel is built, heat would never make it spin around 360 degrees...

Code:
\ / direction-> \ / <- direction the heat would make it move in | \/ | | | heat

and if it's under a glass?
the wind wouldn't do it...
and the heat wouldn't spin it around 360 degrees...
what could be the reason for the never ending rotation?
random quanta fluctuations?

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Posted on Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:50 am

### Dakova

Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Posts: 47

Quote:
What about a hole-puncher?

It wouldn't have to be exclusive to blowing on a psi wheel. That was just an example. You could move anything with your hand and convince yourself that you hadn't touched it (if you were delusional enough) Like I said its a far fetched theory. I just said it because "normal" people think we're all delusional.

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as i have said in past threads

I haven't read all the threads yet sorry.

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