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Posted on Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:13 pm

### Tag

Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 40

ok my last question on here was stupid and noobish but If someone has heard about them on the AP then it would explain ALOT.

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Posted on Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:52 pm

### apocryphal_theses

Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 79

Ancients, as in Final Fantasy? ... Ook. If not, could you explain a little? This sounds extremely interesting.

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Posted on Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:31 am

### Lightbringer

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 293

Tag wrote:
ascended huh?........someone ever hear , even a wisper, about something called the ori, or possibly the ancients?

The terms "Ori" and "The Ancients" are only related to ascension because the sci-fi show Stargate SG-1 (and it's spinoff) involves ascension in it's storyline and lore. The Ancients are the "good" ascended beings (humans that ascended to a higher plane like the etheric) and Ori are the "bad" humans that didn't so much ascend as just gained tremendous power through perverted means and became like stronger malevolent entities in the astral plane. Stargate does have some interestingly accurate lore relating to occult practices and things, but anything that is deliberately fiction obviously isn't a source of real information since it's been twisted and digested by a writer for the show lol.

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Posted on Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:37 pm

### apocryphal_theses

Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 79

And is there the place, this astral plane, where we go when we die? Is it the same place where one goes when they OBE? Is it safe? Have you gone there, lightbringer? Not accusing you, just really really really nosey.

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Posted on Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:20 am

### McLoud

Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 56

Astral projection, etheric projection, OBE... different names for the same thing.

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Posted on Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:55 pm

### Lightbringer

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 293

OBE refers to all experiences where your perception is separate from your physical body. Astral projection is when your perception is shifted from your physical body to your astral body. Etheric projection is when you perceive from your etheric body. 3 very separate terms, although there is some overlap.

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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:48 pm

### WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

"The terms "Ori" and "The Ancients" are only related to ascension because the sci-fi show Stargate SG-1 (and it's spinoff) involves ascension in it's storyline and lore. The Ancients are the "good" ascended beings (humans that ascended to a higher plane like the etheric) and Ori are the "bad" humans that didn't so much ascend as just gained tremendous power through perverted means and became like stronger malevolent entities in the astral plane."
are you saying that only good people can ascend? because if so I will have to kick you in the nads. Or at least wish that I could do so over the internet. I have seen nothing to suggest that one's morality has anything to do with power. Incidentally, morality isn't even natural. you don't see animals or trees walking around being moral, do you?
as for the astral spilling onto the earth, since lightbringer never bothered explaining... changes made in the astral are reflected in the physical, though not always in the same way. if the astral equivalent of your house turned into gold, for instance, your house's value might go up, or you might make more cash, or something. it so happens that thoughts leave an impression in the astral. that why religions usually get followers so easily, it sends energy to the deity, defines it, shapes it. But I'm starting to get into religion and I might have already said too much, so I'm going to end this here.

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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:14 pm

### Felix_the_Cat

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 177

Holy fluffbunnies, Batman!
You guys really ought to read the article linked in my sig, it has great tips on contacting the Ancients and the Ori.

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Posted on Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:31 pm

### Lightbringer

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 293

WhiteRaven wrote:
are you saying that only good people can ascend? because if so I will have to kick you in the nads. Or at least wish that I could do so over the internet. I have seen nothing to suggest that one's morality has anything to do with power. Incidentally, morality isn't even natural. you don't see animals or trees walking around being moral, do you?

I just described fictional lore. How are you getting confrontational over my description of something that I stated repeatedly DOES NOT EXIST? It's a TV show! I expressed no views of my own, I simply gave the source for some of the fluff out there about ascension. Go kick yourself in the nads for jumping the gun and not bothering to even read my post correctly.

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Posted on Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:02 pm

### WhiteRaven

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 343

"The Ancients are the "good" ascended beings (humans that ascended to a higher plane like the etheric) and Ori are the "bad" humans that didn't so much ascend as just gained tremendous power through perverted means and became like stronger malevolent entities in the astral plane."
the way you state it here implies that you think it's taking from real life. not to mention that you have been known to say worse things... xiousliden or however it's spelled is the same way, sometimes I think the 2 of you are really the same person, especially as you 2 agree with each other A LOT on very stupid things, for instance, I believe you've both called Criss Angel the next messiah and I'm not certain, but I think I've read posts from you saying similar things about how only good people can ascend before.
I've been rather tired lately, so I may be wrong, I think I'll try to find posts where you and... that one person agree on something stupid in case you deny that you two agree. I still hate you, but I will apologize if I misunderstood anything, I restate that I have been tired lately so my brain isn't working as well as normally. Just yesterday I woke up thinking I was king of tibequador, which does not exist.

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Posted on Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:59 pm

### Lightbringer

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 293

WhiteRaven wrote:
The way you state it here implies that you think it's taking from real life.

Okay, I'll answer this with a quote from the SAME POST as the one you quoted:

Lightbringer wrote:
The terms "Ori" and "The Ancients" are only related to ascension because the sci-fi show Stargate SG-1 (and it's spinoff) involves ascension in it's storyline and lore.

It's in the same paragraph. Congratulations on your ground breaking attempts at selective reading.

WhiteRaven wrote:
I believe you've both called Criss Angel the next messiah

Well good luck finding that post because I've only ever made one comment regarding Criss Angel on these forums, which outlined that he was a TV illusionist and thus, with total control of what we see, everything he does/claims should be taken with a grain of salt. So basically I had the exact opposite viewpoint that you claimed I had.

WhiteRaven wrote:
I've been rather tired lately, so I may be wrong.

I'd be inclined to believe your problem is a more...persistent one.

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