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Poll: Would you join a world wide Psi Organization?

Yes, I would join a world wide Psi Organization.

75%

[ 30 ]

No, I would not join a world wide Psi Organization.

25%

[ 10 ]

Total Votes : 40

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What if we came together and announced are selves to public? on Sat May 06, 2006 9:50 pm

### Cyphers

Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 1

So, hypocritical let?s say that somehow we were all able to unit together as one through some kind of a group or organization. Let?s also say that this group or organization is also extremely organized, some might say that the administration could be viewed as more of a government.
The main purpose of this group or organization would be to help any and all whom need assassinates and to help bring a stop to the ignorance of inhuman persecution to those whom study and or wish to learn about things which may be deemed ?occult? (that just means ?hidden?) in nature. These goals would be achieved by none violent means; mainly through the use of educating the general public.
(You can choose to answer only one question if you like or you could answer however many question?s you want. Please just put the number of the question(s) that you are answering. Thank you.)
Questions:
1.) My first question; how do you think that we should reveal ourselves to your country and or world? It would preferable need to be a way in which was none violent (such as: without the use of mass panic, and without the use of force)?
2.) Second question; how might we be a benefit to your country/world by revealing ourselves?
3.) Third question; Do you think that such a group and or organization could even come together to exist?
4.) Do you believe that individuals (including yourself) might be interested in such a group and or organization?
5.) What other goals and or purposes might you believe would and or should be apart of this group or organization?
6.) What type of hastily would you assume that we might face towards the general public and also how might we counter it (preferable through none violent means)?
7.) My last question, how might we pose a problem and or challenge for our country and or world?
Thanks for answering my questions,
Ryan

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Posted on Sat May 06, 2006 10:50 pm

### Yamamaya

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 292

1: the possibility of mass panic from the blasphmerizing religious masses from any revealing would be large, so a slow initiation would be better.
2: what specific benifits are you talking about? militarily? socially? medically?
3: who says that a world wide organization doesn't exist? (world reiki organization)
4: of course we would
5: non militarization of psi
6: re-word your question plz.
7: see answer one.
Yamamaya.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:00 am

### neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

ehh...isn't that what Psipog is? A Internet Organization to help those taht are seeking help. A place to meet other psions and converse about interest.
A public gathering would be just like the internet, but possibly smaller unless you make a building size of texas.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:03 am

### Yamamaya

Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 292

but psipog isn't publicly announced on air, in magazines or on tv. therefore, it is not officially globally known. he's talking about if we were.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:08 am

### neveza

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 1147

Yamamaya wrote:
but psipog isn't publicly announced on air, in magazines or on tv. therefore, it is not officially globally known. he's talking about if we were.

Bah, Nothing more then crap to me, Normal people would think it's crazy, Religious people will but a vendetta on it, but that's about it, nothing abnormal in life.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:21 am

### SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

Questions:
1.) My first question; how do you think that we should reveal ourselves to your country and or world? It would preferable need to be a way in which was none violent (such as: without the use of mass panic, and without the use of force)?
I think this question is kind of flawed. It jumps simply to "The Country and The World". There are a lot of inbetweens. The first steps would have to be around communities, and small groups. The best way to do it would be through some type of training course, in which the instructor is skilled and can demonstrate his/her skills. Along with small "talks" on what "psi" is.
2.) Second question; how might we be a benefit to your country/world by revealing ourselves?
It could have two outcomes, assuming that the group manages to get nation/world wide. The first outcome is quite bleak: "New Practices" are often frowned upon by many people, especially those who hold religions that ban such things as "Psychicism" (Or whatever you want to call it). Even something that has nothing to do with Psychic things has been prosecuted/frowned upon/harassed/hurt. "Falun Gung" is only one example of such thing, and many other religions could be used as an example. Even though Psi is not a religion, it would still be treated as some cult or whatever.
The second outcome, the beneficial one could come first, or follow the outcome I outlined above. A better understaning of human nature and reality, possible applications in technology, health, and many other things. Maybe especially communication .
3.) Third question; Do you think that such a group and or organization could even come together to exist?
Right now, the prospect seems bleak. However, we have many members coming to Psipog everyday. I am not saying Psipog is that organization, but I am saying that a website like this is the start. There is on problem, though, and that is a sort of "Non-Standardization" of terms and theories. There are many which are radically different, and at this point, our knowledge could be said to be merely a stab in the dark. THis would impede our progress in creating a "larger" organisation.
4.) Do you believe that individuals (including yourself) might be interested in such a group and or organization?
Yes, very interested. It would be great to be involved in such a project.
5.) What other goals and or purposes might you believe would and or should be apart of this group or organization?
It would be important to learn about the possible applications in everday life, aside from what we can already do. That means applications in science, technology, and possibly in the advancement of the human conscience.
6.) What type of hastily would you assume that we might face towards the general public and also how might we counter it (preferable through none violent means)?
Hostilities? There are quite a bit. Currently I think the main would come from "Skeptic Groups", Religious groups, possibly governments, and from "Science". More scientific evidence would be needed to "persuade" the masses that it exists. After that is accomplished, and after the reputations of members skills increase, then I think we could look forward to less hostility.
7.) My last question, how might we pose a problem and or challenge for our country and or world?
I could only think that some people would have "bad" intensions, when it comes to Psi. Attempting to use it to manipulate politics, hurt others, or whatever else that you could think of that's bad. That's assuming, however, that abilities reach that point to be used daily and effectively by everyone. Other than that, I'm not sure.
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What do you think?

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 4:38 am

### psi_manipulator_3000

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 1274

Already been done. *cough* X-Men.

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Re: What if we came together and announced are selves to pub on Sun May 07, 2006 6:54 am

### Woodpecker

Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 218

Cyphers wrote:
So, hypocritical let?s say that somehow we were all able to unit together as one through some kind of a group or organization.

I think the word you are looking for is 'hypothetically'. 'Hypocritical' means when someone forwards an opinion and then doesn't act on it. For example if I said, "No Psion must ever make psi balls." and then made one, I would be being hypocritical (hence 'hypocrisy' - the act of doing so, and 'hypocrite', the person who does it).
'Hypothetical' refers to an imagined situation. For example, 'Hypothetically if I made a psi ball in space, I would not be able to feel it'.
This is an important distinction to make in order to avoid a lot of confusion.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 8:28 am

### freakinrican626

Joined: 23 Apr 2006
Posts: 514

i'm goin w/ psi on this one even though that was a movie.
i mean, when i read this post for some reason i keep on thinkin about the xmen movies. if people actually believed us they might think we're freaks
ahh!
wow that was a very pessimistic view, but i can't shake that feeling.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:24 pm

### SheepKing

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 728

In no way shape or form are Psi powers anywhere near as cool or "powerful" as X-men.
But seriously, how did you guys turn a good discussion into something some what boring and stupid?

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:29 pm

### psi_manipulator_3000

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 1274

I think I should own up and take full credit for that. Sorry. *flushes head down toilet*.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:41 pm

### Apollo

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 1589

I was thinking of writing a little article for one of those student magazine things. If anyone would like to help or likes the idea, PM me.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 1:53 pm

### sgtpsion

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 425

Well, I don't think that an organization like this could happen unless everyone (by that I mean most Psis) wants it. It will never, ever happen through one man's (or woman's) vision. I would know. I tried. Does anyone know of the Society for the Transmundane and Gifted? Didn't think so.
That's why it has to be a major group effort. If someone else is up for it, I'll put in my efforts. But you can't do it by one person's efforts, it will invariably fail.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 4:23 pm

### mattz1010

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 885

Why think that a small group of people can't change the world? It's all that ever has...
Edit: This is a quote from somewhere I just can't remember.
Edit2: Answering questions.
I can assume that English isn't your first language, or you're just haveing a bad day, as due to
Hypocritical -> Hypothetical
Hastily -> Hostility

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1.) My first question; how do you think that we should reveal ourselves to your country and or world? It would preferable need to be a way in which was none violent (such as: without the use of mass panic, and without the use of force)?

'we' should not reveal quickly, rather be it slowly and gradually. It just makes more sense.

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3.) Third question; Do you think that such a group and or organization could even come together to exist?

If enough effort and persistance come through with it, and that we get the support of the populace/media.

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4.) Do you believe that individuals (including yourself) might be interested in such a group and or organization?

Hey, if somebody starts it, I'm all for it.

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6.) What type of hastily would you assume that we might face towards the general public and also how might we counter it (preferable through none violent means)?

Well, you have neutralists (People who don't care one way or another, or are just in the middle section between a 'believer', and a 'sketpic')
You have skeptics (Ones who don't believe in psi, but may still have their mind changed)
You have extreme skeptics (Ones who fully deny the existance of psi whatsoever, and go to ANY means to prove it, lodging from the most dank recesses of a bull's large intestine)
You have religious fanatics (Note: This doesn't include religious people on the whole. The fanatics we can just ignore, as the rest of the world still thinks they're crazy anyways.)

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7.) My last question, how might we pose a problem and or challenge for our country and or world?

I can't see any as of now, but some occults may appear, those who practice psionic combat.
Which is definitely a problem.
xD The Psionic Inquisition, set in Monty Python style, doing The Spanish Inquisition - used to find people who practice and/or participate in psionic combat.
Or just a physical beating to those.

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Posted on Sun May 07, 2006 5:58 pm

### Psi_Ninja

Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Posts: 334

Apollo wrote:
I was thinking of writing a little article for one of those student magazine things. If anyone would like to help or likes the idea, PM me.

Ooh... good idea. I might write one for my school's newpaper.
Well, i did try to start a little underground community in my school. I was going to teach a few people in my school, then when we have about 10 people or so... we would start showing people some TK and doing some telepathy. Then we would tell people to join if they wanted to learn. But... it isnt going so well...

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