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Akio

I think that with the adea wandering wolf presented on having the light "avoid" the psion is a pretty interesting idea. The only problem is that because you are bending the light beams, the observer would notice a distortion around your body. Much like the Active camoflauge (sp?) in the Halo series.
@Lain
It's possible that I may have, the fact of the matter is, I don't really think about my intent when I am around friends. I never really felt any need to be invisible.
I think that with the adea wandering wolf presented on having the light "avoid" the psion is a pretty interesting idea. The only problem is that because you are bending the light beams, the observer would notice a distortion around your body. Much like the Active camoflauge (sp?) in the Halo series. @Lain It's possible that I may have, the fact of the matter is, I don't really think about my intent when I am around friends. I never really felt any need to be invisible.

Last edited by Akio, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

The only problem is that because you are bending the light beams, the observer would notice a distortion around your body.
@Akio
Lol: Stealth camoflage! I'm not sure if that would happen, but it seems like a possibility. There is really only one way to find out. But, hey, even if that is the case, it's still better than nothing. I might comment on all of that emotional material another day perhaps. And, Akio, I should be able to ask you those questions about psychic reception, but I do not know when I will get to it. I will be sure to ask them in a thread when I have seen that you have made a recent post.
[quote] The only problem is that because you are bending the light beams, the observer would notice a distortion around your body. [/quote] @Akio Lol: Stealth camoflage! I'm not sure if that would happen, but it seems like a possibility. There is really only one way to find out. But, hey, even if that is the case, it's still better than nothing. I might comment on all of that emotional material another day perhaps. And, Akio, I should be able to ask you those questions about psychic reception, but I do not know when I will get to it. I will be sure to ask them in a thread when I have seen that you have made a recent post.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

we can invent as much as our imagination can think of. actually, I think 'kenisis is just based on the weird things you can think of. and because things like telekenisis and pyrokenisis are very populair on the internet, you read much about it. in that way, it aflicts your imagination. you use your imagination to do things (most of the time paranormal)
simple as that, my friends
we can invent as much as our imagination can think of. actually, I think 'kenisis is just based on the weird things you can think of. and because things like telekenisis and pyrokenisis are very populair on the internet, you read much about it. in that way, it aflicts your imagination. you use your imagination to do things (most of the time paranormal) simple as that, my friends

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Falcon

Agreed, theoretically it's all possible.
But, that doesn't mean we should use our powers to lift buildings for example.
We have access to the skills to do the job, but I don't think anyone here has enough energy to lift a building.
F.
Agreed, theoretically it's all possible. But, that doesn't mean we should use our powers to lift buildings for example. We have access to the skills to do the job, but I don't think anyone here has enough energy to lift a building. F.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

@ Falcon: It is possible. in 2 ways:
1) if you trained telekenisis since your birth, or are "gifted" that you can do it easier then other people. but still, this is the hardest way.
2) call upon a group of psionics to help you 8D
@ Falcon: It is possible. in 2 ways: 1) if you trained telekenisis since your birth, or are "gifted" that you can do it easier then other people. but still, this is the hardest way. 2) call upon a group of psionics to help you 8D

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

One other thing I thought about Wandering Wolf, If you had all light beams around you, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't be able to see anything? Would you require some kind of light beaming out of you in order to see when you are invisible through this method? Would that cause you to be visible again?
There are to many problems with this Idea of invisibility, I prefer Active camoflauge. Basically, you just wear a ton of cameras and projectors that make up your whole body. each one the size of a computer pixel. These would then recieve info from opposite sides of the body and projects them out. In effect causing light to pass right through you while at the same time hitting you so you could see while being invisible.
One other thing I thought about Wandering Wolf, If you had all light beams around you, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't be able to see anything? Would you require some kind of light beaming out of you in order to see when you are invisible through this method? Would that cause you to be visible again? There are to many problems with this Idea of invisibility, I prefer Active camoflauge. Basically, you just wear a ton of cameras and projectors that make up your whole body. each one the size of a computer pixel. These would then recieve info from opposite sides of the body and projects them out. In effect causing light to pass right through you while at the same time hitting you so you could see while being invisible.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

@Akio
One other thing I thought about Wandering Wolf, If you had all light beams around you, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't be able to see anything?
Yes. Waldo already pointed that out to me and I expressed my agreement.
Would you require some kind of light beaming out of you in order to see when you are invisible through this method?
Yes. I basically said that already. A small amount of light would have to enter one's eyes for him/her to see. If the diameters of the beams of light were small enough, the pupils would either be very difficult or impossible to see with the naked eye. Did you not read that post of mine, Akio? In case you don't know, it is the 11th post of page 2 that comes right after Waldo asks me about the darkness effect.
Would that cause you to be visible again?
Only the part of you that it is hitting (in theory at least). As implied above, one could become almost completely invisible while still maintaining one's vision if the person had that level of control, of course.
I am no expert in optics and optical equipment, so I do not know what to say about your micro camera-projector active camoflage theory (right now). Perhaps I will think about it later and see what I come up with.
@Akio [quote] One other thing I thought about Wandering Wolf, If you had all light beams around you, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't be able to see anything? [/quote] Yes. Waldo already pointed that out to me and I expressed my agreement. [quote] Would you require some kind of light beaming out of you in order to see when you are invisible through this method? [/quote] Yes. I basically said that already. A small amount of light would have to enter one's eyes for him/her to see. If the diameters of the beams of light were small enough, the pupils would either be very difficult or impossible to see with the naked eye. Did you not read that post of mine, Akio? In case you don't know, it is the 11th post of page 2 that comes right after Waldo asks me about the darkness effect. [quote] Would that cause you to be visible again? [/quote] Only the part of you that it is hitting (in theory at least). As implied above, one could become almost completely invisible while still maintaining one's vision if the person had that level of control, of course. I am no expert in optics and optical equipment, so I do not know what to say about your micro camera-projector active camoflage theory (right now). Perhaps I will think about it later and see what I come up with.

Last edited by Wandering Wolf, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Honestly... I didn't ^_^.. I'm sorry, I was in a hurry when I made the post, I had a doctors appointment (that I was an hour late for..)
Thankyou for letting me know... As for the optical equipment, it is technology being developed at this point in time. It's still being designed by my understanding, but when it comes out they're thinking of using it for military camoflauge.
Honestly... I didn't ^_^.. I'm sorry, I was in a hurry when I made the post, I had a doctors appointment (that I was an hour late for..) Thankyou for letting me know... As for the optical equipment, it is technology being developed at this point in time. It's still being designed by my understanding, but when it comes out they're thinking of using it for military camoflauge.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

@Akio
Honestly... I didn't ^_^.. I'm sorry, I was in a hurry when I made the post, I had a doctors appointment (that I was an hour late for..)
Fair enough.
Thankyou for letting me know
Ditto :).
As for the optical equipment, it is technology being developed at this point in time. It's still being designed by my understanding, but when it comes out they're thinking of using it for military camoflauge.
Good God...before we know it they will be selling Metal Gear Rex prototypes on the black market. It looks like your game is becoming a reality, Mr. Kojima.
This is yet another example of how frighteningly quick the development of our technology is advancing. I'm starting to wish that I was born a few decades earlier.
Also, it is about time that I bring up that psychic reception discussion. It really isn't as much typing as I made it out to be, I guess. I've just been so distracted as of late.
I just have a few examples of what kind of psychic reception I have been referring to. Please read each numbered example and number your replies to each to match the examples. I need you to mention whether or not you know/think the pyschic reception mentioned in each example would be (very) limited by distance. If there is a distance limit, please give me an idea of what kind of distance range you are talking about.
(These examples are all made up and any resemblances to any actual events are purely unintentional.)
DISCLAIMER:
THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS MILDLY SUGGESTIVE MATERIAL AND SHOULD ONLY BE VIEWED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN AND/OR ARE OLD ENOUGH TO BE EXPOSED TO ADULT THEMES AND AN OVERALL UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURE AND REALITY OF SUCH MATERIAL. BY READING THE MATERIAL BELOW YOU HEREBY AGREE NOT TO HOLD WANDERING WOLF RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PERCEIVED OR ACTUAL MENTAL, PHYSICAL, SPIRITUAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, EMOTIONAL, OR ANY OTHER KIND OF DAMAGE INCURRED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FROM THE READING OF THIS MATERIAL.
1. A woman finds a potenial partner on a dating website and suddenly knows that the potential partner intends rape her after seeing his ironically pleasant-looking personal photograph (psychic intuition).
2. A person hears a disembodied voice in his head telling him that his penpal is suicidal (clairaudience).
3. A man and woman date online. They have never met and the woman wants to go on a date with the man. The man suddenly gets a terrible feeling in his stomach area that somehow conveys to him that he should stop dating her. He later hears that she was arrested for selling organs from unconscious victims on the black market to make a living (psychic feeling).
4. The supervisor of a retail store talks with a young woman about an interview that he would like to schedule with her for the job that she applied for. The young woman has a vision of the supervisor sexually harrassing her in the privacy of his own office during the phone conversation (clairvoyance).
If you have any questions just let me know, Akio.
@Akio [quote] Honestly... I didn't ^_^.. I'm sorry, I was in a hurry when I made the post, I had a doctors appointment (that I was an hour late for..) [/quote] Fair enough. [quote] Thankyou for letting me know [/quote] Ditto :). [quote] As for the optical equipment, it is technology being developed at this point in time. It's still being designed by my understanding, but when it comes out they're thinking of using it for military camoflauge. [/quote] Good God...before we know it they will be selling Metal Gear Rex prototypes on the black market. It looks like your game is becoming a reality, Mr. Kojima. This is yet another example of how frighteningly quick the development of our technology is advancing. I'm starting to wish that I was born a few decades earlier. Also, it is about time that I bring up that psychic reception discussion. It really isn't as much typing as I made it out to be, I guess. I've just been so distracted as of late. I just have a few examples of what kind of psychic reception I have been referring to. Please read each numbered example and number your replies to each to match the examples. I need you to mention whether or not you know/think the pyschic reception mentioned in each example would be (very) limited by distance. If there is a distance limit, please give me an idea of what kind of distance range you are talking about. (These examples are all made up and any resemblances to any actual events are purely unintentional.) DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS MILDLY SUGGESTIVE MATERIAL AND SHOULD ONLY BE VIEWED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN AND/OR ARE OLD ENOUGH TO BE EXPOSED TO ADULT THEMES AND AN OVERALL UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURE AND REALITY OF SUCH MATERIAL. BY READING THE MATERIAL BELOW YOU HEREBY AGREE NOT TO HOLD WANDERING WOLF RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PERCEIVED OR ACTUAL MENTAL, PHYSICAL, SPIRITUAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, EMOTIONAL, OR ANY OTHER KIND OF DAMAGE INCURRED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FROM THE READING OF THIS MATERIAL. 1. A woman finds a potenial partner on a dating website and suddenly knows that the potential partner intends rape her after seeing his ironically pleasant-looking personal photograph (psychic intuition). 2. A person hears a disembodied voice in his head telling him that his penpal is suicidal (clairaudience). 3. A man and woman date online. They have never met and the woman wants to go on a date with the man. The man suddenly gets a terrible feeling in his stomach area that somehow conveys to him that he should stop dating her. He later hears that she was arrested for selling organs from unconscious victims on the black market to make a living (psychic feeling). 4. The supervisor of a retail store talks with a young woman about an interview that he would like to schedule with her for the job that she applied for. The young woman has a vision of the supervisor sexually harrassing her in the privacy of his own office during the phone conversation (clairvoyance). If you have any questions just let me know, Akio.

Last edited by Wandering Wolf, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Hey, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner Wandering Wolf... I read your post this morning but I was really at a loos for what to say ^_^.
Anyway, I think that you are over complicating things to an extent. All 4 of the examples you have given could be used via either method. There are only two differences that one may see between Psychic Reception and the more refined form in which I am going to call Psychic linking for short.
In the following, I will discribe the differences between the psychic reception forms and the psychic linking forms of each.
1.) This first one would most likely only fall under the psychic reception form, because to link means to have contact with someone, and at this point it is unlikely the woman has had any contact. This however can be written down to certain key points that can be found in the mans picture, it may look "false" to her. This means that we cannot accurately say this is a psychic phenomena.
Furthermore, since I don't believe in intuition as true phenomena because I do not believe that there is any true coincidence. Which leads me to believe that there is something that told her that this man is not what he says he is. I would call this Psychic reception, or otherwise something that could be rooted down to the picture.
2.) In this case, the best way I could discribe this to you is to say that the person was using reception, picking up on little details, bith psychic and not, that are setting off warning signs in his head. Since the person in question is probably in denial, his subconcience sends out a message heard in an audio form in his head telling him what he is denying to himself. The Ego is a little too present for my liking in this case, but it can be riddles down to Reception, maybe psychic, maybe not.
3.)This has a possibility of being linked to psychic linking, but it is more likely Psychic reception because he is getting a feeling, not seeking for information. I'll explain later on in my post.
4.)Clairvoyance is both a form of Psychic reception ad linking at the same time, in reality, you are recieving the information from without a link, but thaen establish a link in the middle of the effect. This is really something I consider psychic reception simply because it is more often a recieved, not sought for, vision.
With each of these, they could all be called Psychic reception. The Reason is because you are recieving psychic information, not establishing a link in order to gather that type of information.
To Clarify, It is said that we have always had the ability to recieve information, information like you have said above. The Difference between Psychic Reception and Psychic Linking is That Psychic Linking is much more refined. To explain more, I could say that Psychic linking came about when man tried to harness the abilities he possessed. Empathy and Telepathy fall under the category of Psychic linking because they require one to focus one's abilities (this increases the range to infinite amounts because one can focus on anything anywhere). Ofcourse, there are forms of empathy and telepathy (some you have mentioned above) that have limited range because they don't require the focus that the Psychic linking, or true forms of empathy and telepathy would require.
Hey, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner Wandering Wolf... I read your post this morning but I was really at a loos for what to say ^_^. Anyway, I think that you are over complicating things to an extent. All 4 of the examples you have given could be used via either method. There are only two differences that one may see between Psychic Reception and the more refined form in which I am going to call Psychic linking for short. In the following, I will discribe the differences between the psychic reception forms and the psychic linking forms of each. 1.) This first one would most likely only fall under the psychic reception form, because to link means to have contact with someone, and at this point it is unlikely the woman has had any contact. This however can be written down to certain key points that can be found in the mans picture, it may look "false" to her. This means that we cannot accurately say this is a psychic phenomena. Furthermore, since I don't believe in intuition as true phenomena because I do not believe that there is any true coincidence. Which leads me to believe that there is something that told her that this man is not what he says he is. I would call this Psychic reception, or otherwise something that could be rooted down to the picture. 2.) In this case, the best way I could discribe this to you is to say that the person was using reception, picking up on little details, bith psychic and not, that are setting off warning signs in his head. Since the person in question is probably in denial, his subconcience sends out a message heard in an audio form in his head telling him what he is denying to himself. The Ego is a little too present for my liking in this case, but it can be riddles down to Reception, maybe psychic, maybe not. 3.)This has a possibility of being linked to psychic linking, but it is more likely Psychic reception because he is getting a feeling, not seeking for information. I'll explain later on in my post. 4.)Clairvoyance is both a form of Psychic reception ad linking at the same time, in reality, you are recieving the information from without a link, but thaen establish a link in the middle of the effect. This is really something I consider psychic reception simply because it is more often a recieved, not sought for, vision. With each of these, they could all be called Psychic reception. The Reason is because you are recieving psychic information, not establishing a link in order to gather that type of information. To Clarify, It is said that we have always had the ability to recieve information, information like you have said above. The Difference between Psychic Reception and Psychic Linking is That Psychic Linking is much more refined. To explain more, I could say that Psychic linking came about when man tried to harness the abilities he possessed. Empathy and Telepathy fall under the category of Psychic linking because they require one to focus one's abilities (this increases the range to infinite amounts because one can focus on anything anywhere). Ofcourse, there are forms of empathy and telepathy (some you have mentioned above) that have limited range because they don't require the focus that the Psychic linking, or true forms of empathy and telepathy would require.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

@Akio
Your additional explanation proved very helpful. I think I am beginning to understand what you have been getting at all of this time. I really don't know what to say about psychic intuition though. It is difficult to exemplify psychic intuition with such examples, so I can partly understand why you disagreed with it. Psychic intuition is better exemplified with situations involving seemingly automated actions that yield a desired (or undesired) result, such as a sniper firing his or her rifle at just the right time to hit a quickly moving target that would have been nearly impossible to land a shot on otherwise.
@Akio Your additional explanation proved very helpful. I think I am beginning to understand what you have been getting at all of this time. I really don't know what to say about psychic intuition though. It is difficult to exemplify psychic intuition with such examples, so I can partly understand why you disagreed with it. Psychic intuition is better exemplified with situations involving seemingly automated actions that yield a desired (or undesired) result, such as a sniper firing his or her rifle at just the right time to hit a quickly moving target that would have been nearly impossible to land a shot on otherwise.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

I see your point, and I think that psychic intuition is a valid idea, however; it seems so muddled with normal intuition that I see no difference between them. Since I don't believe coincidence as anything but an excuse, I think that psychic intuition is just a tie to other physical skills tht come from experience. In other words, what you would call psychic intuition I would call one hell of an amazing shot.
I'm glad I could finally clarify what I've been trying to get across, to be quite honest I was at a loss of how I could explain it.
I see your point, and I think that psychic intuition is a valid idea, however; it seems so muddled with normal intuition that I see no difference between them. Since I don't believe coincidence as anything but an excuse, I think that psychic intuition is just a tie to other physical skills tht come from experience. In other words, what you would call psychic intuition I would call one hell of an amazing shot. I'm glad I could finally clarify what I've been trying to get across, to be quite honest I was at a loss of how I could explain it.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

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