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Zectra

Akio~
Just because they fit those requirements means they're right?
A lot of the laws in the world condemn things that can also be seen as balanced.
If two things prove each other wrong, then one of them has to be false doesn't it?
EDIT: I do agree with your outlook the most though. I believe in balance.
But you have to wonder sometimes... By who's law is it that you are considering it balanced?(Outside of math)
Antisankari~
By your definition, a drug addicts addiction is a part of his personality, so being stoned all the time is beneficial to himself?
I see a flaw in your logic.
Akio~ Just because they fit those requirements means they're right? A lot of the laws in the world condemn things that can also be seen as balanced. If two things prove each other wrong, then one of them has to be false doesn't it? EDIT: I do agree with your outlook the most though. I believe in balance. But you have to wonder sometimes... By who's law is it that you are considering it balanced?(Outside of math) Antisankari~ By your definition, a drug addicts addiction is a part of his personality, so being stoned all the time is beneficial to himself? I see a flaw in your logic.

Last edited by Zectra, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

If two things prove eachother wrong, it does not neccisarily mean that one of them is incorrect. It just means you're looking at it from the wrong prospective. i.e. there's a gap that needs to be filled in.
Again, alot of the laws condamn balance because there are laws that support balance. Granted, they all stemmed out from the idea of balance. I think that there is only one concept that you can root it down to. Equivilent exchange. Atleast in effect, this concept has never truly been disproven, only expanded on. Infact, it's the concept math was founded on. It is not a law that something is founded apon, it is a concept, and the concept of equivilent exchange it the founding concept of laws.
If two things prove eachother wrong, it does not neccisarily mean that one of them is incorrect. It just means you're looking at it from the wrong prospective. i.e. there's a gap that needs to be filled in. Again, alot of the laws condamn balance because there are laws that support balance. Granted, they all stemmed out from the idea of balance. I think that there is only one concept that you can root it down to. Equivilent exchange. Atleast in effect, this concept has never truly been disproven, only expanded on. Infact, it's the concept math was founded on. It is not a law that something is founded apon, it is a concept, and the concept of equivilent exchange it the founding concept of laws.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Zectra

Exactly.
"It just means you're looking at it from the wrong prospective"
What I said before was simply saying it's arrogant to believe your perspective is the only truth and that all other perspectives are wrong because they don't fit your criteria at that instance. Most people and systems do this, including science and religion (Notice, I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm saying most people misuse them)
What I was getting at with the mathematical metaphor, is a person who only believes in "1 and 3" only damns them self. A person who's open to infinite options and unlimitedness is the only one who truly has a chance of progression.
I've not once proposed my beliefs on the truth or falsity of science or religion in this debate, just my thoughts on the closed minded vs the open minded perspectives of each. Both of which leak even into our little community of psions.
Exactly. "It just means you're looking at it from the wrong prospective" What I said before was simply saying it's arrogant to believe your perspective is the only truth and that all other perspectives are wrong because they don't fit your criteria at that instance. Most people and systems do this, including science and religion (Notice, I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm saying most people misuse them) What I was getting at with the mathematical metaphor, is a person who only believes in "1 and 3" only damns them self. A person who's open to infinite options and unlimitedness is the only one who truly has a chance of progression. I've not once proposed my beliefs on the truth or falsity of science or religion in this debate, just my thoughts on the closed minded vs the open minded perspectives of each. Both of which leak even into our little community of psions.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

hmm...well said, but I wanted to point out that the 1 & 3 metaphor wasn't the best ^_^, You have said what you did say now. Without the added information, you risk confusion.
Not meaning to put you down in any way, keep in mind.
hmm...well said, but I wanted to point out that the 1 & 3 metaphor wasn't the best ^_^, You have said what you did say now. Without the added information, you risk confusion. Not meaning to put you down in any way, keep in mind.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Zectra

xD Yes I know. I had a friend tell me that a few would get it, but most people would probably just reply negatively.
I did it purposely to see if anyone could interpret it correctly, and to see how easily people were confused, but I guess I risked a little too much chaos.
I like to experiment with people a bit in the way I post. No offense meant by it ;P
In the end, I found out my curiosity, you could say.
xD Yes I know. I had a friend tell me that a few would get it, but most people would probably just reply negatively. I did it purposely to see if anyone could interpret it correctly, and to see how easily people were confused, but I guess I risked a little too much chaos. I like to experiment with people a bit in the way I post. No offense meant by it ;P In the end, I found out my curiosity, you could say.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

bd333

After all, Mathematical comparison:
1+3 can not equal 5, but 2.5 + 2.5 can; arriving at the same desired destination using a different method.
Anyone who believes that 1 and 3 are law and can not be broken, is an idiot. And anyone who condemns someone else's approach just because it doesn't fit their idea of life, is arrogant.
(just killing any possible debating over what I said)
You know whats a little weird about what you said? My grandfather had the EXACT same conversation with me just hours before you posted it. Lol...
[quote]After all, Mathematical comparison: 1+3 can not equal 5, but 2.5 + 2.5 can; arriving at the same desired destination using a different method. Anyone who believes that 1 and 3 are law and can not be broken, is an idiot. And anyone who condemns someone else's approach just because it doesn't fit their idea of life, is arrogant. (just killing any possible debating over what I said)[/quote] You know whats a little weird about what you said? My grandfather had the EXACT same conversation with me just hours before you posted it. Lol...

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

zephyr

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Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Zectra

bd333~
"My grandfather had the EXACT same conversation with me just hours before you posted it. Lol..."
Oh Really? That is pretty interesting.
bd333~ "My grandfather had the EXACT same conversation with me just hours before you posted it. Lol..." Oh Really? That is pretty interesting.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Zectra~
"Oh Really? That is pretty interesting."
Oh Really? That is pretty interesting.
Zectra~ "Oh Really? That is pretty interesting." Oh Really? That is pretty interesting.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

cinderwild

Akio~
""Oh Really? That is pretty interesting."
Oh Really? That is pretty interesting."
Oh Really? That is pretty interesting.
Akio~ ""Oh Really? That is pretty interesting." Oh Really? That is pretty interesting." Oh Really? That is pretty interesting.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

W

Well nothing would change if I would be immortal. Maybe I would be more careful at making friends, but that's all. I have talked to person, who claimed to be immortal, pretty interesting ^_^.
Well nothing would change if I would be immortal. Maybe I would be more careful at making friends, but that's all. I have talked to person, who claimed to be immortal, pretty interesting ^_^.

Last edited by W, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

W

Ehh double post -.-..
Ehh double post -.-..

Last edited by W, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Zectra

W~
Yeah, I agree with everything you said.
W~ Yeah, I agree with everything you said.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

daslickest

There's no point in searching for Immortality because its impossible all shall taste death. And forever is a long time if i was alive forever idk what i'd do. If I was a vampire I'd have fun though! lol. I'm going to watch The Man From Earth though seems interesting.
There's no point in searching for Immortality because its impossible all shall taste death. And forever is a long time if i was alive forever idk what i'd do. If I was a vampire I'd have fun though! lol. I'm going to watch The Man From Earth though seems interesting.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Silly Bear

I'd choose to be immortal any day! I'm really interested in space travels and stuff, I don't think I'll be alive when the real discoveries in space are made without being immortal. I mean... 50-60 years or so is all I got left. Max.
My immortality wouldn't help anyone but me though. I'm just that greedy. :(
I'd choose to be immortal any day! I'm really interested in space travels and stuff, I don't think I'll be alive when the [b]real[/b] discoveries in space are made without being immortal. I mean... 50-60 years or so is all I got left. Max. My immortality wouldn't help anyone but me though. I'm just that greedy. :(

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

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