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Jusseppe

Thinking about this meaning of life discusion I came across this idea: If our lives have a different meaning than the one we ourselves give to them, wouldn't that mean we were "designed" for this other purpose? Wouldn't that mean that in some way we were designed by some Superior Being (call it God, the Universe or whatever you like)?
If this were not true, then I think the purpose of any living thing is simply to survive, and everything else is just what people (and other beings) like to do with their remaining time and energy.
Thinking about this meaning of life discusion I came across this idea: If our lives have a different meaning than the one we ourselves give to them, wouldn't that mean we were "designed" for this other purpose? Wouldn't that mean that in some way we were designed by some Superior Being (call it God, the Universe or whatever you like)? If this were not true, then I think the purpose of any living thing is simply to survive, and everything else is just what people (and other beings) like to do with their remaining time and energy.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Jusseppe

Also: I don't mean to start a discusion about this or to annoy anyone, but I just had to write it.
I study sustainability, and it is a fact that if we continue to live the way we do (actually, if we don't DRASTICALLY change the way we live), we WILL become extinct as a species sooner than everyone thinks, and that's really scary if you ask me.
Also: I don't mean to start a discusion about this or to annoy anyone, but I just had to write it. I study sustainability, and it is a fact that if we continue to live the way we do (actually, if we don't DRASTICALLY change the way we live), we WILL become extinct as a species sooner than everyone thinks, and that's really scary if you ask me.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

bd333

I agree, something does have to change... Otherwise things are going to get a lot worse.
For me, the meaning of life is to discover its full potential, live free and enjoy myself!
--BD
I agree, something does have to change... Otherwise things are going to get a lot worse. For me, the meaning of life is to discover its full potential, live free and enjoy myself! --BD

Last edited by bd333, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

I'm not really sure about this, but I will say world has been really scary lately.
@bd333
"For me, the meaning of life is to discover its full potential, live free and enjoy myself!"
Absolutely.
I'm not really sure about this, but I will say world has been really scary lately. @bd333 "For me, the meaning of life is to discover its full potential, live free and enjoy myself!" Absolutely.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

I leave for three days and I end up with 3 pages ^_^, wow.
I leave for three days and I end up with 3 pages ^_^, wow.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

INTENSE

i think the meaning of life is just to push yourself to your maximum potential in whatever you do...
i think the meaning of life is just to push yourself to your maximum potential in whatever you do...

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Falcon

Well, you don't have to push yourself to your maximum potental, the meaning of life is, like I already said, what you want it to be.
If you want to be a lazy noob, well, then be one, but then that's your 'meaning of life'.
You may think his meaning of life sucks, and I think so too, but it IS his meaning of life.
F.
Well, you don't have to push yourself to your maximum potental, the meaning of life is, like I already said, what you want it to be. If you want to be a lazy noob, well, then be one, but then that's your 'meaning of life'. You may think his meaning of life sucks, and I think so too, but it IS his meaning of life. F.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Anonymous Dark

The meaning of life varies from person to person. Some people have a "calling" and this is their purpose...some others don't have such a "calling" and have to look for something meaningful that they want to do, or else they just stummble blindly through life without a direction.
I guess I'm saying that your purpose in life is whatever you think it is.
The meaning of life varies from person to person. Some people have a "calling" and this is their purpose...some others don't have such a "calling" and have to look for something meaningful that they want to do, or else they just stummble blindly through life without a direction. I guess I'm saying that your purpose in life is whatever you think it is.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

@Falcon
Actually no. Being a lazy noob is what he does in his life. But then again, knowing what he does will help find his meaning of life.
"There was once this young man who loved philosophy. He took philosophy throughout his high school and college years. Whenever his professor was done lecturing, he would always ask if there were any questions. The young man would always stand up and ask what the meaning of life was. Everyone always laughed at him, but he never failed to ask the question. Still, his professors would never answer him."
"One time, he went to listen to one of this famous philosopher's lectures."(Don't remember his name) After the Philosopher was finished, the young man stood and asked his question. 'What is the meaning of life?' The Philosopher turned away and the young man thought he wouldn't answer. Then, the Philosopher turned around, holding a glass shard.
'When me and my brother were little, we had nothing.' The philosopher said. 'No toys, and barely any food. One day we found a glass shard, and we thought it was the coolest thing ever. We found that we could use it to reflect light in small places. I don't know what you're meaning of life, but this is mine.' he held up the shard. 'To shine light in dark corners.'"
I heard this at my oldest brother's graduation, four years ago. I just now remembered it.
I think this is what first got me interested into philosophy.
@Falcon Actually no. Being a lazy noob is what he does in his life. But then again, knowing what he does will help find his meaning of life. "There was once this young man who loved philosophy. He took philosophy throughout his high school and college years. Whenever his professor was done lecturing, he would always ask if there were any questions. The young man would always stand up and ask what the meaning of life was. Everyone always laughed at him, but he never failed to ask the question. Still, his professors would never answer him." "One time, he went to listen to one of this famous philosopher's lectures."(Don't remember his name) After the Philosopher was finished, the young man stood and asked his question. 'What is the meaning of life?' The Philosopher turned away and the young man thought he wouldn't answer. Then, the Philosopher turned around, holding a glass shard. 'When me and my brother were little, we had nothing.' The philosopher said. 'No toys, and barely any food. One day we found a glass shard, and we thought it was the coolest thing ever. We found that we could use it to reflect light in small places. I don't know what you're meaning of life, but this is mine.' he held up the shard. 'To shine light in dark corners.'" I heard this at my oldest brother's graduation, four years ago. I just now remembered it. I think this is what first got me interested into philosophy.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

I feel that there is no true meaning of life. It's just the general will to survive that issues us to press on. Devine will or not, you can't assign any meaning to life as a whole because we lack information to make a valid hypothesis. So far, what I have seen is people explaining the meanings of their live's, rather that life as a whole. The fact of the matter is, the closest we can get without finding another "lively" world is the meaning of life on earth.
I feel that the meaning of life on earth is to keep the balance. namely, one life form changes the atmosphere so that another lifeform can survive in that atmosphere, this lifeform then produces the gas that the first life form required to live.
We can't say that life has any universal meaning because we don't know of other life forms existence besides those on our planet.
I think that the main goal of any life is survival. I think this is why we have an instinctual fear of death, however; because we can rid ourselves of this inherent fear of death, we cannot say that survival is the meaning of life.
We cannot say that the meaning of life is to be a test of worthyness for the next world because, besides creating a paradox,We would have to gain more knowledge on the religeous level and celear out confusion. It's not that this can't be a possible solution, it's that we lack the information to garuntee it.
I think the best thing to say is that your life as an individual is what you make of it. The rest is a mystery worth exploring. The prime Idea Behind a Philosopher is to learn and explain, as best they can. They Seek knowledge, and a higher answer, and there only hope is to finnally grasp that answer.
"To shine light in dark corners."
Life is just a reflection in the shard of memory, and memory is just a dream.
I feel that there is no true meaning of life. It's just the general will to survive that issues us to press on. Devine will or not, you can't assign any meaning to life as a whole because we lack information to make a valid hypothesis. So far, what I have seen is people explaining the meanings of their live's, rather that life as a whole. The fact of the matter is, the closest we can get without finding another "lively" world is the meaning of life on earth. I feel that the meaning of life on earth is to keep the balance. namely, one life form changes the atmosphere so that another lifeform can survive in that atmosphere, this lifeform then produces the gas that the first life form required to live. We can't say that life has any universal meaning because we don't know of other life forms existence besides those on our planet. I think that the main goal of any life is survival. I think this is why we have an instinctual fear of death, however; because we can rid ourselves of this inherent fear of death, we cannot say that survival is the meaning of life. We cannot say that the meaning of life is to be a test of worthyness for the next world because, besides creating a paradox,We would have to gain more knowledge on the religeous level and celear out confusion. It's not that this can't be a possible solution, it's that we lack the information to garuntee it. I think the best thing to say is that your life as an individual is what you make of it. The rest is a mystery worth exploring. The prime Idea Behind a Philosopher is to learn and explain, as best they can. They Seek knowledge, and a higher answer, and there only hope is to finnally grasp that answer. "To shine light in dark corners." Life is just a reflection in the shard of memory, and memory is just a dream.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Ghost

to quote one of my favourite songs:
"So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
Just let the light touch you
And let the words spill through
And let them pass right through
Bringing out our hope and reason ..."
i think we will know the meaning of life when we have completed it.
As to what it is.. i have no idea, no ideals apeal to me of yet as they all seem to make like pointless
Perhapes this is just a realy advance RPG im in right now and my memories were whiped for a better gameing experiance
to quote one of my favourite songs: "So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ..." i think we will know the meaning of life when we have completed it. As to what it is.. i have no idea, no ideals apeal to me of yet as they all seem to make like pointless Perhapes this is just a realy advance RPG im in right now and my memories were whiped for a better gameing experiance

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

The meaning of life:
1. a characteristic state or mode of living; "social life";
2. the course of existence of an individual; the actions and events that occur in living;
3. the experience of being alive; the course of human events and activities;
4. animation: the condition of living or the state of being alive;
5. the period during which something is functional (as between birth and death);
6. the period between birth and the present time;
7. liveliness: animation and energy in action or expression;
8. a living person;
9. living things collectively;
10. a motive for living;
11. the organic phenomenon that distinguishes living organisms from nonliving ones;
12. Life is a condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally. ...
Just kidding. This just a few web definitions of life. Aw, the wonderouse powers of google. ^_^
@akio
"Devine will or not, you can't assign any meaning to life as a whole because we lack information to make a valid hypothesis."
No, but you can find a definition for it!^.^ Which actually helps in finding the meaning of life.
@Ghost
"i think we will know the meaning of life when we have completed it."
True, but it is so much more fun pondering on it.
The meaning of life: 1. a characteristic state or mode of living; "social life"; 2. the course of existence of an individual; the actions and events that occur in living; 3. the experience of being alive; the course of human events and activities; 4. animation: the condition of living or the state of being alive; 5. the period during which something is functional (as between birth and death); 6. the period between birth and the present time; 7. liveliness: animation and energy in action or expression; 8. a living person; 9. living things collectively; 10. a motive for living; 11. the organic phenomenon that distinguishes living organisms from nonliving ones; 12. Life is a condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally. ... Just kidding. This just a few web definitions of life. Aw, the wonderouse powers of google. ^_^ @akio "Devine will or not, you can't assign any meaning to life as a whole because we lack information to make a valid hypothesis." No, but you can find a definition for it!^.^ Which actually helps in finding the meaning of life. @Ghost "i think we will know the meaning of life when we have completed it." True, but it is so much more fun pondering on it.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

I think that you may have a point there, I still feel that most, if not every definition we have given or could give would be inevitably flawed because of our own ego. I feel that the the meaning of everything is to keep balance, even chaos, however; when faced with life, I feel that this is the case...but...possibly it's our own ego to assume that life has any greater meaning? Could we just be there to keep the balance? Is life only around because of death? With that said, is any immortality truely life? These are questions I find myself asking as I draw to this new possibility.
So, Is life just there to keep the balance or does life have greater purpose?
I think that you may have a point there, I still feel that most, if not every definition we have given or could give would be inevitably flawed because of our own ego. I feel that the the meaning of everything is to keep balance, even chaos, however; when faced with life, I feel that this is the case...but...possibly it's our own ego to assume that life has any greater meaning? Could we just be there to keep the balance? Is life only around because of death? With that said, is any immortality truely life? These are questions I find myself asking as I draw to this new possibility. So, Is life just there to keep the balance or does life have greater purpose?

Last edited by Akio, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

Sometimes I feel that, assuming that there is an (absolute) meaning to life, if I could somehow know what it is that I would not be able to express it in words.
Has anyone else ever felt like this?
Also, I have a (slightly rhetorical) question: If someone told you what the supposed meaning of life is, do you honestly think that you would live by it without question? Do you think that you could supress your free will/free spirit enough to submit to this supposed truth. This is all assuming that this truth was somehow proven to you.
I know that I'm too free spirited and stubborn to believe what people want me to believe, so I can honestly say that my answer would be a strong "No." I just want to hear some opinions. I'm anticipating diverse answers. I also realize that this contradicts my first sentence somewhat because of the wording, so I can provide a little clarification if you'd like.
As for the other arguments, I really don't have anything to say at the moment. We all seem to have different or slightly different beliefs that are likely unchangeable, so there is no point of me debating with anyone unless I am directly asked or confronted about something specific in which an opinion could be swayed.
@Akio
I still feel that most, if not every definition we have given or could give would be inevitably flawed because of our own ego.
Excellent point. If you asked me what the meaning of life is while I was not truly in the present moment, then I would probably give you an answer similar to what I mentioned earlier (my own definition, not the one I elaborated on). If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place. Either that or I would answer with a silence that simply says, "It doesn't matter."
Akio, I also may as well mention that there wouldn't be much of a point for me to bring up my old thread with the questions I promised you since my absence was so prolonged, so I will refrain from doing so unless you wouldn't mind discussing it with me now or some other time (on my thread or else where).
Sometimes I feel that, assuming that there is an (absolute) meaning to life, if I could somehow know what it is that I would not be able to express it in words. Has anyone else ever felt like this? Also, I have a (slightly rhetorical) question: If someone told you what the supposed meaning of life is, do you honestly think that you would live by it without question? Do you think that you could supress your free will/free spirit enough to submit to this supposed truth. This is all assuming that this truth was somehow proven to you. I know that I'm too free spirited and stubborn to believe what people want me to believe, so I can honestly say that my answer would be a strong "No." I just want to hear some opinions. I'm anticipating diverse answers. I also realize that this contradicts my first sentence somewhat because of the wording, so I can provide a little clarification if you'd like. As for the other arguments, I really don't have anything to say at the moment. We all seem to have different or slightly different beliefs that are likely unchangeable, so there is no point of me debating with anyone unless I am directly asked or confronted about something specific in which an opinion could be swayed. @Akio [quote] I still feel that most, if not every definition we have given or could give would be inevitably flawed because of our own ego. [/quote] Excellent point. If you asked me what the meaning of life is while I was not truly in the present moment, then I would probably give you an answer similar to what I mentioned earlier (my own definition, not the one I elaborated on). If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place. Either that or I would answer with a silence that simply says, "It doesn't matter." Akio, I also may as well mention that there wouldn't be much of a point for me to bring up my old thread with the questions I promised you since my absence was so prolonged, so I will refrain from doing so unless you wouldn't mind discussing it with me now or some other time (on my thread or else where).

Last edited by Wandering Wolf, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Any time, any place Wandering Wolf.^_^
Any time, any place Wandering Wolf.^_^

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

zephyr

Akio you make it sound like some kind of show down
Akio you make it sound like some kind of show down

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Lol... Yeah
Lol... Yeah

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

"If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place."
I you think about it, why do Life need a neaning?
"If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place." I you think about it, why do Life need a neaning?

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Antisankari

Because otherwise our egos will shatter as being a rapist-murderer is just as correct in his views and deeds as a charity doing volunteer working nun.
Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints.
Hallowed be the Hot Dog!
Because otherwise our egos will shatter as being a rapist-murderer is just as correct in his views and deeds as a charity doing volunteer working nun. Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints. Hallowed be the Hot Dog!

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

@lain
I you think about it, why do Life need a neaning?
???
Why are you basically repeating what I posted? Clarification or an explanation would be appreciated.
@Antisankari
Because otherwise our egos will shatter as being a rapist-murderer is just as correct in his views and deeds as a charity doing volunteer working nun.
Having a meaning to one's life does not necessarily dictate that person's morals. If your meaning of life was to sew teddy bears you could probably still be a serial killer or a rapist.
@lain [quote] I you think about it, why do Life need a neaning? [/quote] ??? Why are you basically repeating what I posted? Clarification or an explanation would be appreciated. @Antisankari [quote] Because otherwise our egos will shatter as being a rapist-murderer is just as correct in his views and deeds as a charity doing volunteer working nun. [/quote] Having a meaning to one's life does not necessarily dictate that person's morals. If your meaning of life was to sew teddy bears you could probably still be a serial killer or a rapist.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

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