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M. Dragon Fang

I've been practicing TK for a while now, but no results.
Every day I try to practice using my psiwheel, but I actually never have a feeling like "now it's going to happen" or something. I also can't seem to stay concentrated at it very long...
so:
- can someone teach me how to meditate?
- how to put a lot of focus in only 1 thing.
If someone would be able to help me that would be greatly apriciated. :)
~M. Dragon Fang
I've been practicing TK for a while now, but no results. Every day I try to practice using my psiwheel, but I actually never have a feeling like "now it's going to happen" or something. I also can't seem to stay concentrated at it very long... so: - can someone teach me how to meditate? - how to put a lot of focus in only 1 thing. If someone would be able to help me that would be greatly apriciated. :) ~M. Dragon Fang

Last edited by M. Dragon Fang, 4 years, 8 months ago
Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Dash

from what i've heard, theres lots of ways to meditate.. i personally like the "sit there" method
which is just sitting there, relaxing and clearing your mind,
focus is basically something you train
to help myself with focus (being a gear-head)
i try to figure out how stuff works..
i took my keyboard apart for example.. er...
well just find something to occupy your mind in a way that you become absorbed it what your doing
i recommend a book.. ... with a good story
from what i've heard, theres lots of ways to meditate.. i personally like the "sit there" method which is just sitting there, relaxing and clearing your mind, focus is basically something you train to help myself with focus (being a gear-head) i try to figure out how stuff works.. i took my keyboard apart for example.. er... well just find something to occupy your mind in a way that you become absorbed it what your doing i recommend a book.. ... with a good story

Last edited by Dash, 4 years, 8 months ago
Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

I've also read things about clearing your mind. You must NEVER push all your thoughts away, but you have to throw them out of your head.
I sometimes try to do that by:
1. closing my eyes
2. see your head in front of you with a "window" on your forhead.
3. in that window you see the keywords of your toughts
4. see these keywords that aren't about the thing you're concentrating on coming out of your ears, and then vanish into the air
anyways, I don't think gaming counts as "something to occupy your mind in a way that you become absorbed it what your doing" ^^;
but thanks for your info Dash
I've also read things about clearing your mind. You must NEVER push all your thoughts away, but you have to throw them out of your head. I sometimes try to do that by: 1. closing my eyes 2. see your head in front of you with a "window" on your forhead. 3. in that window you see the keywords of your toughts 4. see these keywords that aren't about the thing you're concentrating on coming out of your ears, and then vanish into the air anyways, I don't think gaming counts as "something to occupy your mind in a way that you become absorbed it what your doing" ^^; but thanks for your info Dash

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Waldo

Any time I do meditate (not often) I simply sit somewhere quiet, look at something brighter than the surroundings, relax and clear my mind. Then I try the best I can to keep my mind on nothing, just gently bringing my mind back to that if a stray thought gets in there somewhere. The bright whatever is just something to focus on - it's often easier to keep your mind on one thing that think about nothing at all. Hold it for 5-10 minutes, and you've meditated, basically. I can't really help you with focus as it pertains to TK, because I'm still trying to get it consistent myself. Sigh. Hope I was of some help! =)
Waldo x
Any time I do meditate (not often) I simply sit somewhere quiet, look at something brighter than the surroundings, relax and clear my mind. Then I try the best I can to keep my mind on nothing, just gently bringing my mind back to that if a stray thought gets in there somewhere. The bright whatever is just something to focus on - it's often easier to keep your mind on one thing that think about nothing at all. Hold it for 5-10 minutes, and you've meditated, basically. I can't really help you with focus as it pertains to TK, because I'm still trying to get it consistent myself. Sigh. Hope I was of some help! =) Waldo x

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Gumby

I dont think the problem is your connecting. I wouldnt even worry about the connection. I dont connect with things first, when I move stuff the connection comes from doing it. About the meditation: the way I meditate is the breathing method from NI's TK training manual. You breath in and out, and fully focus on your breathing. When you think of something else, bring your focus back to your breathing. How to focus on only one thing, I wouldnt worry about that either. Just meditate for a bit, and try to move it, and do it every day and in time youll be able to do it. In my opinion your just over thinking stuff :-)
I dont think the problem is your connecting. I wouldnt even worry about the connection. I dont connect with things first, when I move stuff the connection comes from doing it. About the meditation: the way I meditate is the breathing method from NI's TK training manual. You breath in and out, and fully focus on your breathing. When you think of something else, bring your focus back to your breathing. How to focus on only one thing, I wouldnt worry about that either. Just meditate for a bit, and try to move it, and do it every day and in time youll be able to do it. In my opinion your just over thinking stuff :-)

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Antisankari

Gumby has a point.
Most important words in his post: "do" , "it" , "every" and "day". Ad infinitum.
Sooner or later a success will follow.
Gumby has a point. Most important words in his post: "do" , "it" , "every" and "day". Ad infinitum. Sooner or later a success will follow.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

gumby:
the way I meditate is the breathing method from NI's TK training manual. You breath in and out, and fully focus on your breathing. When you think of something else, bring your focus back to your breathing.
I always count the times I breath out. that's ok isn't it?
I also have a track of a japanese bamboo flute. it is said it is used for meditation. should I put it on while meditating?
Anyways, thanks for your help everyone!
and other kenisis kinds require the same sort of meditation as telekenisis?
gumby:[QUOTE]the way I meditate is the breathing method from NI's TK training manual. You breath in and out, and fully focus on your breathing. When you think of something else, bring your focus back to your breathing.[/QUOTE] I always count the times I breath out. that's ok isn't it? I also have a track of a japanese bamboo flute. it is said it is used for meditation. should I put it on while meditating? Anyways, thanks for your help everyone! and other kenisis kinds require the same sort of meditation as telekenisis?

Last edited by M. Dragon Fang, 4 years, 8 months ago
Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Waldo

All the types of "kinesis" are the same thing. So if meditating helps you with telekinesis, then it is going to help with the others as well. And note, you don't actually have to meditate to perform psychokinesis, it can just help with holding clear states of mind. Like I said, I don't do it much, and manage PK fairly well.
If the music helps you relax, then do it. However, it's not necessary, and might even hinder you by distracting you. Give it a go with and without, and see what is better for keeping your mind clear. Simple. =)
Waldo x
All the types of "kinesis" are the same thing. So if meditating helps you with telekinesis, then it is going to help with the others as well. And note, you don't actually have to meditate to perform psychokinesis, it can just help with holding clear states of mind. Like I said, I don't do it much, and manage PK fairly well. If the music helps you relax, then do it. However, it's not necessary, and might even hinder you by distracting you. Give it a go with and without, and see what is better for keeping your mind clear. Simple. =) Waldo x

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

delimew

remember, everyones different with this sort of stuff. there's no right or wrong way to do things, just ways that work better for some people than they do for others.
so, while we'll help you as much as we can, in the end it is just a matter of you doing what you feel suits you best. just don't be afraid to find out what that is ^-^
remember, everyones different with this sort of stuff. there's no right or wrong way to do things, just ways that work better for some people than they do for others. so, while we'll help you as much as we can, in the end it is just a matter of you doing what you feel suits you best. just don't be afraid to find out what that is ^-^

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

Again, thanks for the replies!
I'm going to try meditating now, with the japanese bamboo flute blowing softly. maybe I'll make a psi-ball during meditation? :3
EDIT: holy crap! after 5 minutes of meditation I started to try to "connect" with the psi wheel. making it follow my hand. after a minute or 2 it kinda reacted on my hands movements. I could most of the time stop it, and make it turn around clockwise or counter-clockwise at will! When it stoped moving I tried to concentrate extra hard and then the piece of paper fell of the pin! I was like OH FUCK! and still now, my hands are shaking, and my legs too… anyways, I'm almost sure it weren't air currents because it really followe d my hand most of the time and it moved so… special…
now this is what I call proof that meditation can help you!
but, I'll try again after dinner
Again, thanks for the replies! I'm going to try meditating now, with the japanese bamboo flute blowing softly. maybe I'll make a psi-ball during meditation? :3 EDIT: holy crap! after 5 minutes of meditation I started to try to "connect" with the psi wheel. making it follow my hand. after a minute or 2 it kinda reacted on my hands movements. I could most of the time stop it, and make it turn around clockwise or counter-clockwise at will! When it stoped moving I tried to concentrate extra hard and then the piece of paper fell of the pin! I was like OH FUCK! and still now, my hands are shaking, and my legs too… anyways, I'm almost sure it weren't air currents because it really followe d my hand most of the time and it moved so… special… now this is what I call proof that meditation can help you! but, I'll try again after dinner

Last edited by M. Dragon Fang, 4 years, 8 months ago
Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Gumby

Yeah. But remember not to overdo it. I just go bout 30 minutes a day. :-) I got pretty good too.
Yeah. But remember not to overdo it. I just go bout 30 minutes a day. :-) I got pretty good too.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

I don't think I'll overdo it, but I'm still thinking about the fact that air currents or my SLOWLY moving hand may have blew it :(
I don't think I'll overdo it, but I'm still thinking about the fact that air currents or my SLOWLY moving hand may have blew it :(

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Boom

Usually if you can get it to go around 3 times in one consistent motion I'd say thats something. No one can really give you a direct and correct answer especially if your working with the tack and paper. Use foil if your not already.
Usually if you can get it to go around 3 times in one consistent motion I'd say thats something. No one can really give you a direct and correct answer especially if your working with the tack and paper. Use foil if your not already.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

I'm using paper, and it works for me. (tin)foil only gets blowed easier.
sadly enough, I'll have no time for practicing today >_<
I'm using paper, and it works for me. (tin)foil only gets blowed easier. sadly enough, I'll have no time for practicing today >_<

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

Dang, I totaly messed up. during meditation it seems that I'm only thinking of what I am concentrating on (breathing OR psiwheel moving), but then, when I walk toward that psiwheel, and start trying to make it move, I lose my concentration!
halp?
EDIT: ****, double post. there should be a delete button on your own posts
Dang, I totaly messed up. during meditation it seems that I'm only thinking of what I am concentrating on (breathing OR psiwheel moving), but then, when I walk toward that psiwheel, and start trying to make it move, I lose my concentration! halp? EDIT: ****, double post. there should be a delete button on your own posts

Last edited by M. Dragon Fang, 4 years, 8 months ago
Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

RazSh18

I have a similar problem, when I try to move the psywheel I imagine a brust of energy flowing out of my palms and hitting the corner of the psywheel, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS .
Am I doing something wrong?
-Razsh18
I have a similar problem, when I try to move the psywheel I imagine a brust of energy flowing out of my palms and hitting the corner of the psywheel, BUT NOTHING HAPPENS . Am I doing something wrong? -Razsh18

Last edited by RazSh18, 4 years, 7 months ago
Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

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