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Lucid Dreaming - Weird or normal?

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ThePantsThatBe

The topic of lucid dreaming has often been associated with New Age, psionics, OBE's, etc. But is there really anything that should put lucid dreaming in this category? Lucid dreaming has become the focus of some scientific and psychological research over the past few decades. Ever since the discovery of REM sleep in the 50's, dreaming in general has been studied more in depth. Lucid dreaming is merely becoming aware that you're dreaming while you are, and potentially having the opportunity to take control of your dream. Whereas some other topics of "weirdness" may assume breaking laws of physics, lucid dreaming really doesnt seem too out of the ordinary. So what do you think- is lucid dreaming a "weird" topic, or has it been misappropriately labelled and is actually quite normal?
NOTE: forgive me if the writing is bad- I'm doing this at 1 in them orning and I'm very tired but cant sleep.
The topic of lucid dreaming has often been associated with New Age, psionics, OBE's, etc. But is there really anything that should put lucid dreaming in this category? Lucid dreaming has become the focus of some scientific and psychological research over the past few decades. Ever since the discovery of REM sleep in the 50's, dreaming in general has been studied more in depth. Lucid dreaming is merely becoming aware that you're dreaming while you are, and potentially having the opportunity to take control of your dream. Whereas some other topics of "weirdness" may assume breaking laws of physics, lucid dreaming really doesnt seem too out of the ordinary. So what do you think- is lucid dreaming a "weird" topic, or has it been misappropriately labelled and is actually quite normal? NOTE: forgive me if the writing is bad- I'm doing this at 1 in them orning and I'm very tired but cant sleep.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

SheepKing

It's one of the things that's labeled "weird", without a real reason for it being labeled so. If you talk to anyone, they'll probably tell you that they've had a dream in which they had control to an extent.
I think there's this misconception of lack of control of the dream world that permeates the general consciousness. It may be due to the nature of dreaming and how we can easily forget them; Or it may have to do with a societal view that dreams are one of those mysterious things that is out of the realm of human control.
It's one of the things that's labeled "weird", without a real reason for it being labeled so. If you talk to anyone, they'll probably tell you that they've had a dream in which they had control to an extent. I think there's this misconception of lack of control of the dream world that permeates the general consciousness. It may be due to the nature of dreaming and how we can easily forget them; Or it may have to do with a societal view that dreams are one of those mysterious things that is out of the realm of human control.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Linked

I heard once that during the time we're asleep, we are transfuring our shot-term memories to out long-term memory bank. And that dreams are the product of these bits of information collideing together and forming new ideas in our mind. Witch begs the question, if we take control of our dream does it interfear with the transfer of short to long-term memory?
I heard once that during the time we're asleep, we are transfuring our shot-term memories to out long-term memory bank. And that dreams are the product of these bits of information collideing together and forming new ideas in our mind. Witch begs the question, if we take control of our dream does it interfear with the transfer of short to long-term memory?

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

SheepKing

Linked: I still think there are a lot of studies that needs to be done to really figure out what is going on behind dreams. And why we dream certain things. There is an important link between sleep and learning, and dreaming and sleep. But as to how it all plays out... Who knows?
You do bring up a good and interesting point that is quite valid and needs to be explored.
Linked: I still think there are a lot of studies that needs to be done to really figure out what is going on behind dreams. And why we dream certain things. There is an important link between sleep and learning, and dreaming and sleep. But as to how it all plays out... Who knows? You do bring up a good and interesting point that is quite valid and needs to be explored.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

ThePantsThatBe

Linked, I'm not really sure if there's any research that supports STM to LTM during sleep... I haven't heard that before, but it's noti mpossible for something along those lines to be true. In which case, the hippocampus would play a much larger role in the dream state. If what you stated is supported, however, would it interfere? Maybe. I would think it would enhance our LTM as such lucidity would be memorable in the minds of most people, thus easier to remember in the long term.
But my question is... what is being transfered from STM to LTM? What pieces are you referring to? Because if it's just any old piece, yeah, what you said is not unbelieveable. We're tranfering things to different memory stores all the time.
Linked, I'm not really sure if there's any research that supports STM to LTM during sleep... I haven't heard that before, but it's noti mpossible for something along those lines to be true. In which case, the hippocampus would play a much larger role in the dream state. If what you stated is supported, however, would it interfere? Maybe. I would think it would enhance our LTM as such lucidity would be memorable in the minds of most people, thus easier to remember in the long term. But my question is... what is being transfered from STM to LTM? What pieces are you referring to? Because if it's just any old piece, yeah, what you said is not unbelieveable. We're tranfering things to different memory stores all the time.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Linked

well i heard that all the information you recive in one day is transfered as you sleep.
well i heard that all the information you recive in one day is transfered as you sleep.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Akio

I Heard that as well Link, I don't remember where though, maybe it's a new study going on.
I Heard that as well Link, I don't remember where though, maybe it's a new study going on.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Falcon

Depends on what you label as 'weird',
It would be a lot easier if you tell us what you label as weird.
If you think something is weird when you don't understand exactly how it works, everything would be labeled as weird.
However, if you think something is weird when it's supernatural or something like that, I wouldn't say lucid dreaming is weird, this isn't supernatural, we just don't understand all the facts nature gave us.
For me personaly, there aren't really 'weird' things in the world, sometimes I think: 'Wow! That's weird!' (When I made the Psiwheel move for the first time for example), but when thinking about it, you'll realize that it's all very natural.
Hope this helps,
F.
Depends on what you label as 'weird', It would be a lot easier if you tell us what you label as weird. If you think something is weird when you don't understand exactly how it works, everything would be labeled as weird. However, if you think something is weird when it's supernatural or something like that, I wouldn't say lucid dreaming is weird, this isn't supernatural, we just don't understand all the facts nature gave us. For me personaly, there aren't really 'weird' things in the world, sometimes I think: 'Wow! That's weird!' (When I made the Psiwheel move for the first time for example), but when thinking about it, you'll realize that it's all very natural. Hope this helps, F.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Wandering Wolf

Well, to answer your original question, I can only speculate that it is considered "weird" because lucid dreamers are able to control what most of us originally thought were supposed to be uncontrollable cycles of thought patterns, memories, etc.
I'm no expert on dreaming, so I can not tell you anything about the processes and the like. That's just my simple observation.
Well, to answer your original question, I can only speculate that it is considered "weird" because lucid dreamers are able to control what most of us originally thought were supposed to be uncontrollable cycles of thought patterns, memories, etc. I'm no expert on dreaming, so I can not tell you anything about the processes and the like. That's just my simple observation.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Linked

@Aiko
I heard it on a show on discovery channle called "Discovering the human body"
i think they had like 4 parts to the show.
@Aiko I heard it on a show on discovery channle called "Discovering the human body" i think they had like 4 parts to the show.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

joke-lain

I've never really heard about transferring sort-term memory to long to memory banks as you sleep until now. But, I could believe it is related to dreams. Think about the last time you dreamed something. What you dream is usually related to what you experienced in that day. that doesn't always mean it has to be everything that you experienced, just some things. I believe if you "control" your dream, it does interfere with the memory transferring. Try to remember the last time you had a dream. Now, try to remember all of it. Most of the time, the only parts you can remember of the dream are the parts where you "controlled" the dream, or yourself in the dream. Because your mind is transferring memory, its too busy to record the dream you have. If you focus in on the dream, your mind will start to record the dream, so to speak.
I've never really done any research on dreams or anything like that, but its always been a fascination of mine. All of the information stated above comes from experience and thinking logically. ^.^
I've never really heard about transferring sort-term memory to long to memory banks as you sleep until now. But, I could believe it is related to dreams. Think about the last time you dreamed something. What you dream is usually related to what you experienced in that day. that doesn't always mean it has to be everything that you experienced, just some things. I believe if you "control" your dream, it does interfere with the memory transferring. Try to remember the last time you had a dream. Now, try to remember all of it. Most of the time, the only parts you can remember of the dream are the parts where you "controlled" the dream, or yourself in the dream. Because your mind is transferring memory, its too busy to record the dream you have. If you focus in on the dream, your mind will start to record the dream, so to speak. I've never really done any research on dreams or anything like that, but its always been a fascination of mine. All of the information stated above comes from experience and thinking logically. ^.^

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

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