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Mindful

Sean, you claim that when it comes to IM, you can easily influence people and thus events using it. My question is, if your ultimate goal is to have enough financial security to do what you want, why don't you use IM to help you build the necessary financial wealth? After all, you seem like you're pretty great at IM already.
The lottery can still be a side project, but it seems like using the skill you already have would be an effective step towards your ultimate goal...
To everyone else in here - do you practice any of the Law of Attraction/intention manifestation teachings? If so, how much do you notice emotion having an effect on your results? In a lot of LoA books, emotions are seen as critical to the attraction process but that has not been true in my experience. Being in an every-day calm sort of state seems to harness the best results.
Sean, you claim that when it comes to IM, you can easily influence people and thus events using it. My question is, if your ultimate goal is to have enough financial security to do what you want, why don't you use IM to help you build the necessary financial wealth? After all, you seem like you're pretty great at IM already. The lottery can still be a side project, but it seems like using the skill you already have would be an effective step towards your ultimate goal... To everyone else in here - do you practice any of the Law of Attraction/intention manifestation teachings? If so, how much do you notice emotion having an effect on your results? In a lot of LoA books, emotions are seen as critical to the attraction process but that has not been true in my experience. Being in an every-day calm sort of state seems to harness the best results.

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

Sean

I'm not worried about financial independence so much. I started investing in the stock market, and can use my very small precog skills to earn money. Plus I know I can always use IM, like you said. I feel confident that I'll be very wealthy some day.
The lottery interests me for two reasons: 1. it's instant. And 2. it's a pure "random" process. It has no human interaction. If I can win the lottery, then that will tell me a lot more about reality than just using precog or IM to be financially independent.
So... the lottery interests me because it is a direct relationship between ME and REALITY. Where as other means of creating wealth will interface with humans. Which I have nothing against! It's just not as interesting to me :-).
~Sean
I'm not worried about financial independence so much. I started investing in the stock market, and can use my very small precog skills to earn money. Plus I know I can always use IM, like you said. I feel confident that I'll be very wealthy some day. The lottery interests me for two reasons: 1. it's instant. And 2. it's a pure "random" process. It has no human interaction. If I can win the lottery, then that will tell me a lot more about reality than just using precog or IM to be financially independent. So... the lottery interests me because it is a direct relationship between ME and REALITY. Where as other means of creating wealth will interface with humans. Which I have nothing against! It's just not as interesting to me :-). ~Sean

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

delimew

it's a pure "random" process. It has no human interaction.
i know it's not the quite the same, but what about all the other people trying to win? surely their desire would be acting against you in some way. so can you really say it is just you and the lottery?
[quote]it's a pure "random" process. It has no human interaction.[/quote] i know it's not the quite the same, but what about all the other people trying to win? surely their desire would be acting against you in some way. so can you really say it is just you and the lottery?

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

Antisankari

Not to mention the jealous blog-readers subconsciously willing to the opposite direction ^^
Not to mention the jealous blog-readers subconsciously willing to the opposite direction ^^

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

Mindful

OH okay, I see what you're saying Sean.
But what if the general rule is that the world IS random, but because of human conscious/desires/thoughts/emotions, the 'random' aspect becomes influenced and thus less random? Which would mean even if you do win the lottery, it doesn't prove that the world isn't random - it would just prove that the inherent randomness in the world can be influenced. This isn't a topic I've thought about too much so I'd like to hear what you think :-P Maybe there's an error in my thinking.
Also, what do you think about the whole emotion aspect when it comes to IM? Has it been extremely important in your experience with LoA.
OH okay, I see what you're saying Sean. But what if the general rule is that the world IS random, but because of human conscious/desires/thoughts/emotions, the 'random' aspect becomes influenced and thus less random? Which would mean even if you do win the lottery, it doesn't prove that the world isn't random - it would just prove that the inherent randomness in the world can be influenced. This isn't a topic I've thought about too much so I'd like to hear what you think :-P Maybe there's an error in my thinking. Also, what do you think about the whole emotion aspect when it comes to IM? Has it been extremely important in your experience with LoA.

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

nonconformist

posted by Sean:
"I'm not worried about financial independence so much. I started investing in the stock market, and can use my very small precog skills to earn money."~Sean
Cool idea I should do that
[quote][i]posted by Sean:[/i] "I'm not worried about financial independence so much. I started investing in the stock market, and can use my very small precog skills to earn money."~Sean[/quote] Cool idea I should do that

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

nonconformist

Oh a sean whats your opinion on very lucky people and IM .
Oh a sean whats your opinion on very lucky people and IM .

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

nonconformist

posted by nonconformist:
Oh and sean whats your opinion on very lucky people and IM .
[quote][i]posted by nonconformist:[/i] Oh and sean whats your opinion on very lucky people and IM .[/quote]

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

Sean

posted by delimew:
i know it's not the quite the same, but what about all the other people trying to win? surely their desire would be acting against you in some way. so can you really say it is just you and the lottery?
You are assuming that desire is what triggers a win in the lottery. The (few) cases I've found, there wasn't a strong desire.
posted by Mindful:
But what if the general rule is that the world IS random, but because of human conscious/desires/thoughts/emotions, the 'random' aspect becomes influenced and thus less random?
"Random" is a term used to mean either one of two things: 1. it's something we don't understand, so it just looks "random" to us, or 2. it's something with so many factors, that it's extremely hard to influence and predict, so it might as well be "random".
#2 isn't true in the case of the lottery, because I've won, and so have other people. #1 sounds like it would be true... and if so, then the solution is simply to understand the process, and it will no longer look "random".
Also, what do you think about the whole emotion aspect when it comes to IM? Has it been extremely important in your experience with LoA.
With the lottery? No. With IM in general? I think emotion plays a role, but I don't think it's the only factor. Intensity of will power seems to be more important - and emotion can play into intensity. But you can be calm and intense at the same time - so emotion doesn't always play a role. But it's still very unknown.
posted by nonconformist:
Oh a sean whats your opinion on very lucky people and IM .
"Lucky people" is a very broad and ambiguous term. I'm sure some lucky people out there use IM. And I'm sure other lucky people don't.
~Sean
[quote][i]posted by delimew:[/i] i know it's not the quite the same, but what about all the other people trying to win? surely their desire would be acting against you in some way. so can you really say it is just you and the lottery?[/quote] You are assuming that desire is what triggers a win in the lottery. The (few) cases I've found, there wasn't a strong desire. [quote][i]posted by Mindful:[/i] But what if the general rule is that the world IS random, but because of human conscious/desires/thoughts/emotions, the 'random' aspect becomes influenced and thus less random?[/quote] "Random" is a term used to mean either one of two things: 1. it's something we don't understand, so it just looks "random" to us, or 2. it's something with so many factors, that it's extremely hard to influence and predict, so it might as well be "random". #2 isn't true in the case of the lottery, because I've won, and so have other people. #1 sounds like it would be true... and if so, then the solution is simply to understand the process, and it will no longer look "random". [quote]Also, what do you think about the whole emotion aspect when it comes to IM? Has it been extremely important in your experience with LoA.[/quote] With the lottery? No. With IM in general? I think emotion plays a role, but I don't think it's the only factor. Intensity of will power seems to be more important - and emotion can play into intensity. But you can be calm and intense at the same time - so emotion doesn't always play a role. But it's still very unknown. [quote][i]posted by nonconformist:[/i] Oh a sean whats your opinion on very lucky people and IM .[/quote] "Lucky people" is a very broad and ambiguous term. I'm sure some lucky people out there use IM. And I'm sure other lucky people don't. ~Sean

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

Akio

Sean, has it come to your mind yet that desire may be like a mirror to will power, and that it's possible that the more desire you put forth into this matter, the more influence will be against you?
Just some food for thought...
EDIT: If I were to think of it like a static charge, the lottery numbers are all being pumped up with negative charge (desire)... Without the influence of something with a positive charge (the opposite of desire), one would expect that the natural flow of energy would try to balance things out and pick the numbers with the least amount of desire.
Now, add the effect opposite of desire and what will they do? If this form of logic is correct, you should end up attracting the numbers you desire most.
It's a complicated process... but it may work out ^.^
Sean, has it come to your mind yet that desire may be like a mirror to will power, and that it's possible that the more desire you put forth into this matter, the more influence will be against you? Just some food for thought... EDIT: If I were to think of it like a static charge, the lottery numbers are all being pumped up with negative charge (desire)... Without the influence of something with a positive charge (the opposite of desire), one would expect that the natural flow of energy would try to balance things out and pick the numbers with the least amount of desire. Now, add the effect opposite of desire and what will they do? If this form of logic is correct, you should end up attracting the numbers you desire most. It's a complicated process... but it may work out ^.^

Last edited by Akio, 4 years, 5 months ago
Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

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