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M. Dragon Fang

I've sort of stopped with kenisis, and started with OBEs.
Now I'm using the method by just laying still for a while, but I always just HAVE to move, my body does it automaticaly, even if I'm telling it not to turn, scratch, or whatever! any help on this?
Also, I seem to feel tingles really quick, especcialy in my hands. I get that after about 2-5 minutes. am I doing something wrong, or is this perfectly fine?
And the last question: When do I know I have to stop thinking of anything?
thanks in advance
I've sort of stopped with kenisis, and started with OBEs. Now I'm using the method by just laying still for a while, but I always just HAVE to move, my body does it automaticaly, even if I'm telling it not to turn, scratch, or whatever! any help on this? Also, I seem to feel tingles really quick, especcialy in my hands. I get that after about 2-5 minutes. am I doing something wrong, or is this perfectly fine? And the last question: When do I know I have to stop thinking of anything? thanks in advance

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

cinderwild

Here's some tips from myself. I've had problems with the same things, and I admit they are still persisting. My advice is to try NOT to put so much importance in not moving. If you do, moving your body will completely break your attempt and you won't care to try again. Instead, let your body move and just accept it as 'not being there yet'.
As for stop thinking. Have you ever noticed what it feels like to fall asleep? That suspended, 'not caring' kind of feeling? There will be a point where you stop consciously thinking and just start perceiving. Try to get to that point. Also, try laying down as if you're going to sleep (choose a different position than usual if you feel like you will actually fall asleep otherwise) and try and pinpoint that moment and suspend it.
Here's some tips from myself. I've had problems with the same things, and I admit they are still persisting. My advice is to try NOT to put so much importance in not moving. If you do, moving your body will completely break your attempt and you won't care to try again. Instead, let your body move and just accept it as 'not being there yet'. As for stop thinking. Have you ever noticed what it feels like to fall asleep? That suspended, 'not caring' kind of feeling? There will be a point where you stop consciously thinking and just start perceiving. Try to get to that point. Also, try laying down as if you're going to sleep (choose a different position than usual if you feel like you will actually fall asleep otherwise) and try and pinpoint that moment and suspend it.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

RazSh18

I support cinderwild's tips and add some of my own :
1. To stop thinking , I visualize a crystal ballon that grab everything that I think and
lock it away until I finish, in the end there will be no pop-ups left.
2. In time your will learn to Ignore the need to move around, and "paralyze" yorself.
-----> GOOD LUCK =)
I support cinderwild's tips and add some of my own : 1. To stop thinking , I visualize a crystal ballon that grab everything that I think and lock it away until I finish, in the end there will be no pop-ups left. 2. In time your will learn to Ignore the need to move around, and "paralyze" yorself. -----> GOOD LUCK =)

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

OK, thanks for the tips!
There will be a point where you stop consciously thinking
you mean it happens automatically?
anyways, I still haven't found the anwer on this:
Also, I seem to feel tingles really quick, especcialy in my hands. I get that after about 2-5 minutes. am I doing something wrong, or is this perfectly fine?
I've done some research myself but didn't find anything that says it's good… =/
OK, thanks for the tips! [quote]There will be a point where you stop consciously thinking[/quote] you mean it happens automatically? anyways, I still haven't found the anwer on this: [quote]Also, I seem to feel tingles really quick, especcialy in my hands. I get that after about 2-5 minutes. am I doing something wrong, or is this perfectly fine?[/quote] I've done some research myself but didn't find anything that says it's good… =/

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Falcon

Don't know if that's wrong.
I always get that feeling when not doing something for a few minutes.
But I'm not that much into OBE's, I'm more into EM.
F.
Don't know if that's wrong. I always get that feeling when not doing something for a few minutes. But I'm not that much into OBE's, I'm more into EM. F.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

RazSh18

I'm with Falcon, but I'm interested in psi manipulation and TK.
What is EM ?
I'm with Falcon, but I'm interested in psi manipulation and TK. What is EM ?

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Sean

The "not moving" means not telling your body to move. If it moves on it's own, let it. The point is to not send any signals consciously to the body.
What sort of tingling? Do you get the tingles when you try to sleep normally - without practicing for an OBE?
After about 10 minutes of laying still, your body will fall asleep. It will feel heavy. At this point, you can try to either stop thinking, or focus your thoughts on one thing alone (like your breath, for example).
~Sean
The "not moving" means not telling your body to move. If it moves on it's own, let it. The point is to not send any signals consciously to the body. What sort of tingling? Do you get the tingles when you try to sleep normally - without practicing for an OBE? After about 10 minutes of laying still, your body will fall asleep. It will feel heavy. At this point, you can try to either stop thinking, or focus your thoughts on one thing alone (like your breath, for example). ~Sean

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Waldo

@RazSh18: EM simply means energy manipulation - what you refer to as psi manipulation, generally. =)
Waldo x
@RazSh18: EM simply means energy manipulation - what you refer to as psi manipulation, generally. =) Waldo x

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

M. Dragon Fang

What sort of tingling? Do you get the tingles when you try to sleep normally - without practicing for an OBE?
I normally don't feel them, but I feel them alot more softly when I keep my body still without OBEing. in example, while watching TV.
Also, is the time I'm doing OBEs good? I always do them when I actually need to go to bed to sleep, but I'm OBEing. so, is that a good time, or should I try OBEs on some other time?
[quote]What sort of tingling? Do you get the tingles when you try to sleep normally - without practicing for an OBE?[/quote] I normally don't feel them, but I feel them alot more softly when I keep my body still without OBEing. in example, while watching TV. Also, is the time I'm doing OBEs good? I always do them when I actually need to go to bed to sleep, but I'm OBEing. so, is that a good time, or should I try OBEs on some other time?

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

stollz

hmm
i have only had an OBE one time so i cant really give you much advice but i can tell you this :
when i try there is usually about a 50/50 chance i get that tingling feeling. it starts small at my feet and grows up to my knees. at that point it actually starts to HURT. whenever it gets to the point where it hurts i just back out and quit trying for that night.
that is all i can reccommend.
as for getting your body to fall asleep ill tell you my method. one i picked up from psipogs a while back :
when trying to make your body fall asleep try running a dialogue through your mind. it should sound something like this :
"goodnight feet. thank you for doing so much work today and helping me walk around all day now it is time to go to bed"
in your head say something like that to each of your body parts from the feet up.
it works every time for me.
hmm i have only had an OBE one time so i cant really give you much advice but i can tell you this : when i try there is usually about a 50/50 chance i get that tingling feeling. it starts small at my feet and grows up to my knees. at that point it actually starts to HURT. whenever it gets to the point where it hurts i just back out and quit trying for that night. that is all i can reccommend. as for getting your body to fall asleep ill tell you my method. one i picked up from psipogs a while back : when trying to make your body fall asleep try running a dialogue through your mind. it should sound something like this : "goodnight feet. thank you for doing so much work today and helping me walk around all day now it is time to go to bed" in your head say something like that to each of your body parts from the feet up. it works every time for me.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Nin10doFan

Hmm, well here's what I do:
If something in the middle of the night wakes you up, or you're just still tired once you wake up, go back to sleep. Don't get up, just lie there. You can move if you want. Just tell your body when your going to sleep after you've woken up, to have an OBE. Just 'plan' for it. Then usually I'll find right before I fall asleep, I'm in this weird state of mind where I'm not 'fully' awake yet I'm 100% conscious. Then I hear hallucinations, usually wind in my ear... Then I'll find myself 'float' out of my body... =P
Come to think of it, I haven't had one since March, I should do them again. Since I haven't really had any success with anything else...
Hmm, well here's what I do: If something in the middle of the night wakes you up, or you're just still tired once you wake up, go back to sleep. Don't get up, just lie there. You can move if you want. Just tell your body when your going to sleep after you've woken up, to have an OBE. Just 'plan' for it. Then usually I'll find right before I fall asleep, I'm in this weird state of mind where I'm not 'fully' awake yet I'm 100% conscious. Then I hear hallucinations, usually wind in my ear... Then I'll find myself 'float' out of my body... =P Come to think of it, I haven't had one since March, I should do them again. Since I haven't really had any success with anything else...

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

forcemaster245

I also have some questions to ask about OBE.
1.Whenever I lay on my bed and let my body fall asleep, I would suddenly feel sharp itches on certain parts of my body. When I ignore this itches, I feel these itchy areas turn numb after some time. Does this usually occur while your body is falling asleep?
2.Yesterday night I was trying for an OBE again. As usual my body felt heavy after some time. But after this I felt my whole body vibrating and I suddenly felt like as if the whole world around me swirling, just like I would usually feel when I was about to fall asleep. Then I swear that my right arm actually twitched without me telling it to. After that I had this feeling that my neck and shoulders were somehow "pulled" away from my body. My question is, is it normal for all these to occur when you have an OBE?
I also have some questions to ask about OBE. 1.Whenever I lay on my bed and let my body fall asleep, I would suddenly feel sharp itches on certain parts of my body. When I ignore this itches, I feel these itchy areas turn numb after some time. Does this usually occur while your body is falling asleep? 2.Yesterday night I was trying for an OBE again. As usual my body felt heavy after some time. But after this I felt my whole body vibrating and I suddenly felt like as if the whole world around me swirling, just like I would usually feel when I was about to fall asleep. Then I swear that my right arm actually twitched without me telling it to. After that I had this feeling that my neck and shoulders were somehow "pulled" away from my body. My question is, is it normal for all these to occur when you have an OBE?

Posted 4 years, 5 months ago

Luka

I have also tried doing OBEs but without much success. When I get into a trance I can stop moving and most of my thoughts, but I always end up being aware of my breathing (having to breathe by yourself (Not automatic)). This is really annoying because when I stop all my thoughts I forget to breathe. I have had a tingling feeling before, it was on my face.
No success right now, except for trancing for an hour.
I have also tried doing OBEs but without much success. When I get into a trance I can stop moving and most of my thoughts, but I always end up being aware of my breathing (having to breathe by yourself (Not automatic)). This is really annoying because when I stop all my thoughts I forget to breathe. I have had a tingling feeling before, it was on my face. No success right now, except for trancing for an hour.

Posted 4 years, 4 months ago

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