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NewAgeAlchemist

The bible is open to interpretation.. do you think your parents would consider psionics as devil-work? How do they usually comment about someone who claims to speak to spirits of the dead? If your actually worried about the question yourself, I'd suggest sorting out your own feelings before practicing anything. Its none of it is dangerous but your mental conflict could cause you to have much more difficulty with it.
Its hard to be objective about your beliefs; Alan Watts suggested that in order to do so he decided to learn about eastern culture and thought, but I don't know that it would actually grant you an objective place to view your old ones from. Seems to me you'd assimilate the knowledge into your thoughts rather than gain a place to observe from.
The bible is open to interpretation.. do you think your parents would consider psionics as devil-work? How do they usually comment about someone who claims to speak to spirits of the dead? If your actually worried about the question yourself, I'd suggest sorting out your own feelings before practicing anything. Its none of it is dangerous but your mental conflict could cause you to have much more difficulty with it. Its hard to be objective about your beliefs; Alan Watts suggested that in order to do so he decided to learn about eastern culture and thought, but I don't know that it would actually grant you an objective place to view your old ones from. Seems to me you'd assimilate the knowledge into your thoughts rather than gain a place to observe from.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Jusseppe

Nah you would be ok, psionics are not magic. Once I got into magick and Wicca and stuff like that, and as you said they all involve rituals (I personally believe they use rituals to boost your psionic skills and that's how they work, but thats a whole different subject).
Also, the Bible was not written by God himself, so don't you worry about stuff like that, I believe some parts of the Bible were manipulated for social control, so if what you're doing feels right keep doing it. ;)
Oh and Zorro, with the tent and the room renting idea: just keep in mind that if you got caught it would look kinda funny.
Nah you would be ok, psionics are not magic. Once I got into magick and Wicca and stuff like that, and as you said they all involve rituals (I personally believe they use rituals to boost your psionic skills and that's how they work, but thats a whole different subject). Also, the Bible was not written by God himself, so don't you worry about stuff like that, I believe some parts of the Bible were manipulated for social control, so if what you're doing feels right keep doing it. ;) Oh and Zorro, with the tent and the room renting idea: just keep in mind that if you got caught it would look kinda funny.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Falcon

I agree with NewAgeAlchemist on this point, however I'm not sure if it's completely
open to interpretation, a part of it surely is.
Also looking at the time frame of the Bible, it says for example that women shouldn't 'teach' anything.
In their time this would be extremely normal, but this has changed in our time, so there are things that have been changed lately.
About Jusseppe, I don't think parts of the Bible were manipulated for social control, I'd believe that it depends on how you look at it.
And the Bible isn't written by God himself of course, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be very important to me.
I'm sure a lot of people arround here have other beliefs than me, but please just accept that I'm a Christian and that the Bible is very important to me ;)
To be a little on topic, renting a room isn't really necessary, a quiet place will do.
But if you don't know a quiet place, okay, then it might be the best option ;)
Also, this depends on the ammount of money you can spend O.o
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I agree with NewAgeAlchemist on this point, however I'm not sure if it's completely open to interpretation, a part of it surely is. Also looking at the time frame of the Bible, it says for example that women shouldn't 'teach' anything. In their time this would be extremely normal, but this has changed in our time, so there are things that have been changed lately. About Jusseppe, I don't think parts of the Bible were manipulated for social control, I'd believe that it depends on how you look at it. And the Bible isn't written by God himself of course, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be very important to me. I'm sure a lot of people arround here have other beliefs than me, but please just accept that I'm a Christian and that the Bible is very important to me ;) To be a little on topic, renting a room isn't really necessary, a quiet place will do. But if you don't know a quiet place, okay, then it might be the best option ;) Also, this depends on the ammount of money you can spend O.o F.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

runical

I agree that it would look a bit funny, however, if you don't have a better place....
Also, make sure that the tent is big enough.
Well, and to continue off topic :p
I guess that it is best for everybody to just believe what they want to or are thaught to believe. However, they must not force their believes upon others and they mustn't believe their own believe to be superior to others. That is all what really matters. ;)
I agree that it would look a bit funny, however, if you don't have a better place.... Also, make sure that the tent is big enough. Well, and to continue off topic :p I guess that it is best for everybody to just believe what they want to or are thaught to believe. However, they must not force their believes upon others and they mustn't believe their own believe to be superior to others. That is all what really matters. ;)

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Falcon

Agreed ;)
Agreed ;)

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Jusseppe

I'm sorry to keep talking about this, because I know that's not what this thread is about. But I just wanted to clarify a few things about what I meant.
First of all I'm sorry about my previous post, I remember comming across information that suggested at some points in history people with power used religion (not specificaly the Bible) for political purposes. However, it was irresponsible making such a statement without having that information to back it up, I can see how that might upset some people.
What I really meant was: when reading the Bible (in my opinion) you should always think about the context in which it was written, because there are things in the Bible that are in there for reasons that wouldn't apply to our times.
Damn, I hope I was clear enough, I always have a hard time putting my thoughts into words (besides, I'm not from an English speaking country, so that makes it harder).
I'm sorry to keep talking about this, because I know that's not what this thread is about. But I just wanted to clarify a few things about what I meant. First of all I'm sorry about my previous post, I remember comming across information that suggested at some points in history people with power used religion (not specificaly the Bible) for political purposes. However, it was irresponsible making such a statement without having that information to back it up, I can see how that might upset some people. What I really meant was: when reading the Bible (in my opinion) you should always think about the context in which it was written, because there are things in the Bible that are in there for reasons that wouldn't apply to our times. Damn, I hope I was clear enough, I always have a hard time putting my thoughts into words (besides, I'm not from an English speaking country, so that makes it harder).

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

WOW *_*... Jusseppe, you surprised me... That was the most clear and concise, let alone serious, comment I have seen you make over the whole time you've been here, and quite frankly, I agree with you...
I feel that in the puusuit of knowledge, one must never shut something out because of their beliefs alone, but rather adapt their perspactive according to the knowledge they aquire. Search for the Higher answer, if you know what I mean ^_-.
I also think that the thing you mentioned about the rituals being to increase their natural abilities is pretty spot on too, considering my study of magicks as a whole (a study that has lasted a good 6 years of my life and has spanned information from all over the world). There is also proof that the Bible changes as it is transcribed, adapted, so to speak. lol, I find it amazing how easily religeon can be corrupted, although I won't get into that unless asked.
WOW *_*... Jusseppe, you surprised me... That was the most clear and concise, let alone serious, comment I have seen you make over the whole time you've been here, and quite frankly, I agree with you... I feel that in the puusuit of knowledge, one must never shut something out because of their beliefs alone, but rather adapt their perspactive according to the knowledge they aquire. Search for the Higher answer, if you know what I mean ^_-. I also think that the thing you mentioned about the rituals being to increase their natural abilities is pretty spot on too, considering my study of magicks as a whole (a study that has lasted a good 6 years of my life and has spanned information from all over the world). There is also proof that the Bible changes as it is transcribed, adapted, so to speak. lol, I find it amazing how easily religeon can be corrupted, although I won't get into that unless asked.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Falcon

Jusseppe, this time I agree with you ;)
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Jusseppe, this time I agree with you ;) F.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Psikillion

Zorro, do you and your psionic friend go to the same school? If you do then probably you could find some less used staircase to practice on during your lunch time.
Falcon, I am a Christian psion too! I tried telling my brother about psionics, but he has his worries just like you do that it is some sort of magic. I voiced my brother's concerns to my psionic friend, who happens to be a Wiccan, and he replied telling me that in the Hebrew edition of the Bible the literally translated verses mention nothing about sorcerors. Instead it mentions to beware of "poisoners". I personally don't know why they used the term "poisoner", but I think it could be refering to traitors in general.
When the Bible was first translated into English "poisoner" could have been misinterpreted as "sorceror" or "witch", because both sorcerors and witches used poison in the popular fiction of the Middle Ages.
Anyways let us get back on topic with Zorro's dilema and not derail this thread, because of religion.
Zorro, do you and your psionic friend go to the same school? If you do then probably you could find some less used staircase to practice on during your lunch time. Falcon, I am a Christian psion too! I tried telling my brother about psionics, but he has his worries just like you do that it is some sort of magic. I voiced my brother's concerns to my psionic friend, who happens to be a Wiccan, and he replied telling me that in the Hebrew edition of the Bible the literally translated verses mention nothing about sorcerors. Instead it mentions to beware of "poisoners". I personally don't know why they used the term "poisoner", but I think it could be refering to traitors in general. When the Bible was first translated into English "poisoner" could have been misinterpreted as "sorceror" or "witch", because both sorcerors and witches used poison in the popular fiction of the Middle Ages. Anyways let us get back on topic with Zorro's dilema and not derail this thread, because of religion.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

NewAgeAlchemist

Like I said, open to interpretation. :P
Translations, Historical Perspective, Miscommunication - plenty of elements lend to the muddling of modern perspective. Though I would argue that, yes, Psionics probably could be considered tainted work in biblical terms. I have little doubt I could find someone who'd argue for that position, though I personally don't agree with the stance.
For Zorro: Also the psi wheel isn't the only mode of TK practice, you two could go to a restaurant, leave a coin or two on the table and try to knock its edge up. Or go to a library and practice rolling a pencil. Going to a park with a psiwheel isn't out of the question but you'd probably want to take a glass bowl to lay over the top so wind doesn't have as much chance of effect. Still a slight issue because of the space between planks in a picnic table.
Like I said, open to interpretation. :P Translations, Historical Perspective, Miscommunication - plenty of elements lend to the muddling of modern perspective. Though I would argue that, yes, Psionics probably could be considered tainted work in biblical terms. I have little doubt I could find someone who'd argue for that position, though I personally don't agree with the stance. For Zorro: Also the psi wheel isn't the only mode of TK practice, you two could go to a restaurant, leave a coin or two on the table and try to knock its edge up. Or go to a library and practice rolling a pencil. Going to a park with a psiwheel isn't out of the question but you'd probably want to take a glass bowl to lay over the top so wind doesn't have as much chance of effect. Still a slight issue because of the space between planks in a picnic table.

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Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Waldo

Hahahahaha, I did this kind of thing a few weeks ago. I got bored whilst my friends and I were in a restaurant. I'd finished, so I tipped the ice cubes from my drink onto my plate (surreptitiously =P) and practiced PK right in front of them. It amused me a lot. Because they didn't even notice that they were sliding around the plate. Hehehehehe. =)
Hahahahaha, I did this kind of thing a few weeks ago. I got bored whilst my friends and I were in a restaurant. I'd finished, so I tipped the ice cubes from my drink onto my plate (surreptitiously =P) and practiced PK right in front of them. It amused me a lot. Because they didn't even notice that they were sliding around the plate. Hehehehehe. =)

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Zorro

Thanks NewAge, the coin idea is something that kind of slipped my mind. My friend tried to get me to do the same thing with a book at the bookstore, well, funny how if you don't think you can do something it becomes rather difficult to do it...needless to say, I reached out and bumped it over with my hand...hey, he didn't specify how to knock it over ;)
And Waldo, I love what you did! I can't believe that they wouldn't notice, I will try that sometime.
Psikillion, yes we go to the same school, we are on summer vacation right now, but they tend to be uptight about kids in the hallways when they aren't suppose to be, otherwise that is a good idea too.
Thanks NewAge, the coin idea is something that kind of slipped my mind. My friend tried to get me to do the same thing with a book at the bookstore, well, funny how if you don't think you can do something it becomes rather difficult to do it...needless to say, I reached out and bumped it over with my hand...hey, he didn't specify how to knock it over ;) And Waldo, I love what you did! I can't believe that they wouldn't notice, I will try that sometime. Psikillion, yes we go to the same school, we are on summer vacation right now, but they tend to be uptight about kids in the hallways when they aren't suppose to be, otherwise that is a good idea too.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

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