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zephyr

Well the Hallowed Hot Dog as well as the Almighty Stache teaches us that both sewing teddy bears and being a serial killer/rapist is wrong, but then again who actually follows those religions? ^_^ I purpose that there is no meaning to life outside of what you dictate to yourself. That's why I've decided my purpose in life is to follow the teachings of the Hallowed Hot Dog and never sew teddy bears -_^
Well the Hallowed Hot Dog as well as the Almighty Stache teaches us that both sewing teddy bears and being a serial killer/rapist is wrong, but then again who actually follows those religions? ^_^ I purpose that there is no meaning to life outside of what you dictate to yourself. That's why I've decided my purpose in life is to follow the teachings of the Hallowed Hot Dog and never sew teddy bears -_^

Last edited by zephyr, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

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Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Falcon

..and building a shrine to the almighty mustache xD
..and building a shrine to the almighty mustache xD

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

zephyr

Of course Falcon, I thought that was a given. Although Dash is in charge of that project, but he's never really around because he's not a "team player." All that will change once the spirt of the Almighty Stache, and his brother from a different mother, the Hallowed Hot Dog move him in such a way that he has no choice but to accept his purpose in life by making the shrine.
Of course Falcon, I thought that was a given. Although Dash is in charge of that project, but he's never really around because he's not a "team player." All that will change once the spirt of the Almighty Stache, and his brother from a different mother, the Hallowed Hot Dog move him in such a way that he has no choice but to accept his purpose in life by making the shrine.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

@Antisankari
I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning.
As a matter of fact, I think the reason I'm so intent on finding the meaning of my life is to prove my life has a meaning. If I didn't, I would sooner or later jump of a bridge from the countless insults and putdowns from myself. Can anyone else relate to what I'm explaining?
@Wandering wolf
I know I just repeated your words. I was just trying to expand the idea. I don't really have an explanation.
...Wait I figured it out! The meaning of life! And I'm not joking on this.
"Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints."
If you look back at what Antisankari wrote, it becomes clearer.
The meaning of life is to fullfill your one true life purpose. To fullfill exactly what you want out of life. If you look at a rapist-murderer, is his/her one true life purpose to really kill or rape?
"If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place."
I can explain this as well. When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little. That is why if you asked Wandering wolf what the meaning of life was while he was meditating, he would ask why life needed a meaning. He didn't have any worries at the time, so he had either forgotten about his life purpose for the moment or he just wasn't worried at that time.
...Um...I hope you guys can get what I'm talking about.
one last thing. I think I know you, zephyr, in person. ^.^
@Antisankari I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning. As a matter of fact, I think the reason I'm so intent on finding the meaning of my life is to prove my life has a meaning. If I didn't, I would sooner or later jump of a bridge from the countless insults and putdowns from myself. Can anyone else relate to what I'm explaining? @Wandering wolf I know I just repeated your words. I was just trying to expand the idea. I don't really have an explanation. ...Wait I figured it out! The meaning of life! And I'm not joking on this. "Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints." If you look back at what Antisankari wrote, it becomes clearer. The meaning of life is to fullfill your one true life purpose. To fullfill exactly what you want out of life. If you look at a rapist-murderer, is his/her one true life purpose to really kill or rape? "If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place." I can explain this as well. When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little. That is why if you asked Wandering wolf what the meaning of life was while he was meditating, he would ask why life needed a meaning. He didn't have any worries at the time, so he had either forgotten about his life purpose for the moment or he just wasn't worried at that time. ...Um...I hope you guys can get what I'm talking about. one last thing. I think I know you, zephyr, in person. ^.^

Last edited by joke-lain, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

@Antisankari
I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning.
As a matter of fact, I think the reason I'm so intent on finding the meaning of my life is to prove my life has a meaning. If I didn't, I would sooner or later jump of a bridge from the countless insults and putdowns from myself. Can anyone else relate to what I'm explaining?
@Wandering wolf
I know I just repeated your words. I was just trying to expand the idea. I don't really have an explanation.
...Wait I figured it out! The meaning of life! And I'm not joking on this.
"Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints."
If you look back at what Antisankari wrote, it becomes clearer.
The meaning of life is to fullfill your one true life purpose. To fullfill exactly what you want out of life. If you look at a rapist-murderer, is his/her one true l;ife purpose to really kill or rape?
"If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place."
I can explain this as well. When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little. That is why if you asked Wandering wolf what the meaning of life was while he was meditating, he would ask why life needed a meaning. He didn't have any worries at the time, so he had either forgotten about his life purpose for the moment or he just wasn't worried at that time.
...Um...I hope you guys can get what I'm talking about.
one last thing. I think I know you, zephyr, in person. ^.^
@Antisankari I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning. As a matter of fact, I think the reason I'm so intent on finding the meaning of my life is to prove my life has a meaning. If I didn't, I would sooner or later jump of a bridge from the countless insults and putdowns from myself. Can anyone else relate to what I'm explaining? @Wandering wolf I know I just repeated your words. I was just trying to expand the idea. I don't really have an explanation. ...Wait I figured it out! The meaning of life! And I'm not joking on this. "Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints." If you look back at what Antisankari wrote, it becomes clearer. The meaning of life is to fullfill your one true life purpose. To fullfill exactly what you want out of life. If you look at a rapist-murderer, is his/her one true l;ife purpose to really kill or rape? "If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place." I can explain this as well. When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little. That is why if you asked Wandering wolf what the meaning of life was while he was meditating, he would ask why life needed a meaning. He didn't have any worries at the time, so he had either forgotten about his life purpose for the moment or he just wasn't worried at that time. ...Um...I hope you guys can get what I'm talking about. one last thing. I think I know you, zephyr, in person. ^.^

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

@Antisankari
I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning.
As a matter of fact, I think the reason I'm so intent on finding the meaning of my life is to prove my life has a meaning. If I didn't, I would sooner or later jump of a bridge from the countless insults and putdowns from myself. Can anyone else relate to what I'm explaining?
@Wandering wolf
I know I just repeated your words. I was just trying to expand the idea. I don't really have an explanation.
...Wait I figured it out! The meaning of life! And I'm not joking on this.
"Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints."
If you look back at what Antisankari wrote, it becomes clearer.
The meaning of life is to fullfill your one true life purpose. To fullfill exactly what you want out of life. If you look at a rapist-murderer, is his/her one true l;ife purpose to really kill or rape?
"If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place."
I can explain this as well. When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little. That is why if you asked Wandering wolf what the meaning of life was while he was meditating, he would ask why life needed a meaning. He didn't have any worries at the time, so he had either forgotten about his life purpose for the moment or he just wasn't worried at that time.
...Um...I hope you guys can get what I'm talking about.
one last thing. I think I know you, zephyr, in person. ^.^
@Antisankari I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning. As a matter of fact, I think the reason I'm so intent on finding the meaning of my life is to prove my life has a meaning. If I didn't, I would sooner or later jump of a bridge from the countless insults and putdowns from myself. Can anyone else relate to what I'm explaining? @Wandering wolf I know I just repeated your words. I was just trying to expand the idea. I don't really have an explanation. ...Wait I figured it out! The meaning of life! And I'm not joking on this. "Meaning of life gives us a context against which to measure our "correctness" in relation to others. We know that we are good persons if we accomplish our "purpose" in life. This purpose being dictated by dominant culture and religious viewpoints." If you look back at what Antisankari wrote, it becomes clearer. The meaning of life is to fullfill your one true life purpose. To fullfill exactly what you want out of life. If you look at a rapist-murderer, is his/her one true l;ife purpose to really kill or rape? "If you asked me while I was meditating I would probably ask you why life "needs" to have meaning in the first place." I can explain this as well. When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little. That is why if you asked Wandering wolf what the meaning of life was while he was meditating, he would ask why life needed a meaning. He didn't have any worries at the time, so he had either forgotten about his life purpose for the moment or he just wasn't worried at that time. ...Um...I hope you guys can get what I'm talking about. one last thing. I think I know you, zephyr, in person. ^.^

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

joke-lain

hey
hey

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Falcon

weeee! triple post xD
weeee! triple post xD

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

@lain
You make an interesting point, but I'm afraid that this...
When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little.
...is where the line is drawn that separates our beliefs.
I believe that meditating dissolves the illusion of having a meaning for one's life. Nothing is forgotten: All is merely realized and made clearer. Without an ego which desires and judges, the objective truth can be realized. The ego is said to be the cause of all desire and therefore the ego is that which causes us to search for a meaning in our lives. Without desire there is freedom, which also translates into the freedom from having a meaning to one's life.
Also...
I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning.
I see. This adequately explains why you believe what you believe. Ironically, "shattering" one's ego is more or less the goal of every Buddhist. It is believed to be the only way to obtain true freedom...even the freedom from "needing" a meaning to one's life. Do you not see that "needing" a meaning for your life binds you to it and supresses your very freedom?
There is a reason why meditation eliminates our worries. It does this because we are experiencing true freedom from all of the false obligations that we create for ourselves.
It is the metaphorical equivalent of ceasing to clean your house or apartment because you no longer care about what your guests think of its cleanliness. The freedom from caring what people think about you can also set you free and allow you to do what you truly feel like doing. However, it is very difficult to distinguish between free will and the will of one's ego because of the ego's firm and almost constant grasp over our actions, thoughts, emotions, and psyche in general.
Well, this is all what I have come to believe anyway. I will not be upset if you simply cannot agree with me. I will respect your right to believe what you want to believe if you will respect my own. This is all I have to say for now. Unless you want to discuss something slightly different that we may be able to at least compromise on, then I suggest that we discuss this no further.
@lain You make an interesting point, but I'm afraid that this... [quote] When people meditate, they forget their worries and just relax. You can't fullfill your life purpose if you don't worry about it, even just a little. [/quote] ...is where the line is drawn that separates our beliefs. I believe that meditating dissolves the illusion of having a meaning for one's life. Nothing is forgotten: All is merely realized and made clearer. Without an ego which desires and judges, the objective truth can be realized. The ego is said to be the cause of all desire and therefore the ego is that which causes us to search for a meaning in our lives. Without desire there is freedom, which also translates into the freedom from having a meaning to one's life. Also... [quote] I would have to agree with you on the fact that our egos would shatter if life didn't need a meaning. [/quote] I see. This adequately explains why you believe what you believe. Ironically, "shattering" one's ego is more or less the goal of every Buddhist. It is believed to be the only way to obtain true freedom...even the freedom from "needing" a meaning to one's life. Do you not see that "needing" a meaning for your life binds you to it and supresses your very freedom? There is a reason why meditation eliminates our worries. It does this because we are experiencing true freedom from all of the false obligations that we create for ourselves. It is the metaphorical equivalent of ceasing to clean your house or apartment because you no longer care about what your guests think of its cleanliness. The freedom from caring what people think about you can also set you free and allow you to do what you truly feel like doing. However, it is very difficult to distinguish between free will and the will of one's ego because of the ego's firm and almost constant grasp over our actions, thoughts, emotions, and psyche in general. Well, this is all what I have come to believe anyway. I will not be upset if you simply cannot agree with me. I will respect your right to believe what you want to believe if you will respect my own. This is all I have to say for now. Unless you want to discuss something slightly different that we may be able to at least compromise on, then I suggest that we discuss this no further.

Last edited by Wandering Wolf, 4 years, 6 months ago
Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Very well put Wandering wolf...
Very well put Wandering wolf...

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Wandering Wolf

You give me too much credit, Akio. Besides, not many members can agree with our "strange" beliefs and self-realizations. Collectively speaking, I'm just representing one point of view among many that applies to this topic.
Despite how firm most of my beliefs are, Lain still caught my interest with her unique response. It allowed me to strenghthen my own beliefs that much more because it presented me with a slight mental challenge. In other words, I believe that presenting different beliefs to others can be beneficial for them sometimes.
Also, about intuition, I am not 100% certain of what you consider "ordinary" intuition to be. Are you perhaps implying that previous experience can stimulate a subconscious response that induces an automated action?
It is a possibility, I guess. I would like to hear your own explanation if that wouldn't be asking too much.
You give me too much credit, Akio. Besides, not many members can agree with our "strange" beliefs and self-realizations. Collectively speaking, I'm just representing one point of view among many that applies to this topic. Despite how firm most of my beliefs are, Lain still caught my interest with her unique response. It allowed me to strenghthen my own beliefs that much more because it presented me with a slight mental challenge. In other words, I believe that presenting different beliefs to others can be beneficial for them sometimes. Also, about intuition, I am not 100% certain of what you consider "ordinary" intuition to be. Are you perhaps implying that previous experience can stimulate a subconscious response that induces an automated action? It is a possibility, I guess. I would like to hear your own explanation if that wouldn't be asking too much.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Hmm, how can I put this?
Quite honestly,I don't think there is such a thing as intuition. It is, to an extent, what you have discribed, but I think it goes deeper then that.
I think that intuition is false because it isn't pure. It's just one of the terms we use to discribe events that are much more complicated then what we would like to admit. For example, rather than psychic intuition that would cause The sniper in your example to make the shot, It was much more likely to be a multitude of other things that caused him to fire. He may have had a feeling in his trigger finger telling him to fire, and that along with his experience in the battlefield and his knowledge of the situation that he felt it right to fire at the moment he did.
I think the thing I'm trying to get across is there are no simple explainations, there are simple answers, and simple people, but no simple explainations.
Hmm, how can I put this? Quite honestly,I don't think there is such a thing as intuition. It is, to an extent, what you have discribed, but I think it goes deeper then that. I think that intuition is false because it isn't pure. It's just one of the terms we use to discribe events that are much more complicated then what we would like to admit. For example, rather than psychic intuition that would cause The sniper in your example to make the shot, It was much more likely to be a multitude of other things that caused him to fire. He may have had a feeling in his trigger finger telling him to fire, and that along with his experience in the battlefield and his knowledge of the situation that he felt it right to fire at the moment he did. I think the thing I'm trying to get across is there are no simple explainations, there are simple answers, and simple people, but no simple explainations.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

zephyr

@joke-lain
O.O....
....you know me?
Now it's time to move again >.<
@Anyone Who Cares
If we determine our purpose in life how can a person dictate to another what his or her true purpose in life is? If a murdering rappist tells himself that the meaning for his existance is to rape and then kill (or even more disturbing kill and then rape) how can we tell him any different? Obviously taking a life is wrong the majority of society can agree on that, but once we get into what we/society agrees with on a whole we start to lose the fact that a person's destiny is in his/her own hands, and becomes something that is decided for the person. In his case we leave the realm of life not having a purpose or deciding your own purpose and enter into something along the lines of destiny's that are preordained. I for one would much rather believe that life has no real purpose because this line of thinking doesn't hurt my head =P
@joke-lain O.O.... ....you know me? Now it's time to move again >.< @Anyone Who Cares If we determine our purpose in life how can a person dictate to another what his or her true purpose in life is? If a murdering rappist tells himself that the meaning for his existance is to rape and then kill (or even more disturbing kill and then rape) how can we tell him any different? Obviously taking a life is wrong the majority of society can agree on that, but once we get into what we/society agrees with on a whole we start to lose the fact that a person's destiny is in his/her own hands, and becomes something that is decided for the person. In his case we leave the realm of life not having a purpose or deciding your own purpose and enter into something along the lines of destiny's that are preordained. I for one would much rather believe that life has no real purpose because this line of thinking doesn't hurt my head =P

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

daslickest

The meaning of life is to worship and obey god and be the best slave you can be. The meaning of life is that death is certain. That hell is certain that paradise is certain. The meaning of life is that this life is but a test the most important test you'll know so he the highest grading you can and past it and enjoy your immortality after death.
The meaning of life is to worship and obey god and be the best slave you can be. The meaning of life is that death is certain. That hell is certain that paradise is certain. The meaning of life is that this life is but a test the most important test you'll know so he the highest grading you can and past it and enjoy your immortality after death.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Jusseppe

@daslickest
If our purpose was to woship God, wouldn't that make God a pretty narcisist and arrogant guy? :) If God created us so we would worship him I think God has some serious self-esteem problems (note that I'm saying this in an ironic way, I mean no disrespect for anyone's religious views).
Well death is certainly certain. But saying hell and paradise are certain is in my opinion a bit intolerant. I believe they could very possibly be real (I'm not a fan of the idea thou), but I wouldn't say anything religious is certain.
I guess you could say this life is a test if you believe in paraside and hell. If a single lifetime would send you to eternal damnation or eternal joy, I would say anyone who's not using their whole time and energy into passing this test is a morron.
@daslickest If our purpose was to woship God, wouldn't that make God a pretty narcisist and arrogant guy? :) If God created us so we would worship him I think God has some serious self-esteem problems (note that I'm saying this in an ironic way, I mean no disrespect for anyone's religious views). Well death is certainly certain. But saying hell and paradise are certain is in my opinion a bit intolerant. I believe they could very possibly be real (I'm not a fan of the idea thou), but I wouldn't say anything religious is certain. I guess you could say this life is a test if you believe in paraside and hell. If a single lifetime would send you to eternal damnation or eternal joy, I would say anyone who's not using their whole time and energy into passing this test is a morron.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

daslickest

@Jusseppe
I'm the most light hearted down to earth guy ever all is good. The definition for narcissism = 1. inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity. and the definition for arrogant = 1. making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud: an arrogant public official.
Using these 2 definitions who has more right to be proud and arrogant besides the all powerful, the creator, the most wise, the all knowing and seeing? I wouldn't say that people not using there whole time dedicated to passing this test is a moron. I'd say rather they were ignorant the the truth or they are weak and fallible like everyone else.
@Jusseppe I'm the most light hearted down to earth guy ever all is good. The definition for narcissism = 1. inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity. and the definition for arrogant = 1. making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud: an arrogant public official. Using these 2 definitions who has more right to be proud and arrogant besides the all powerful, the creator, the most wise, the all knowing and seeing? I wouldn't say that people not using there whole time dedicated to passing this test is a moron. I'd say rather they were ignorant the the truth or they are weak and fallible like everyone else.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Jusseppe

Well, if I believed this life could decide what happens to me for all eternity I know I would do as much as I possibly could to pass this "test", after all, what's a lifetime compared to eternity? I personally don't think this is true, so I'm a lazy good-for-nothing. :)
Well, if I believed this life could decide what happens to me for all eternity I know I would do as much as I possibly could to pass this "test", after all, what's a lifetime compared to eternity? I personally don't think this is true, so I'm a lazy good-for-nothing. :)

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

daslickest

Well I once heard a saying. It's better to believe and die and find out its not true than to not believe and die and find out its true. lol yikes. A thing to look into indeed though happy travels ^^
Well I once heard a saying. It's better to believe and die and find out its not true than to not believe and die and find out its true. lol yikes. A thing to look into indeed though happy travels ^^

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

Akio

Lol, I've heard that saying before...
There's another one I like as well..
"Hope for the best but pray for the worst."
I don't know why I like it but It's a good quote.
Lol, I've heard that saying before... There's another one I like as well.. "Hope for the best but pray for the worst." I don't know why I like it but It's a good quote.

Posted 4 years, 6 months ago

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