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Why do people get so scared that the Mayan Calendar ends in 2012?

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ARandomKid

Do they expect them to just sit there forever, adding on to the calender to eternity? Surely somebody had to get up and say "Meh, I'll finish this later."
;>_>
-ARK
Do they expect them to just sit there forever, adding on to the calender to eternity? Surely somebody had to get up and say "Meh, I'll finish this later." ;>_> -ARK

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Antisankari

Nah. They just ran out of beads to count...
Nah. They just ran out of beads to count...

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

delimew

From what I understand, mainstream Mayanist scholars consider the cataclysm belief to just a mis-interpretation.
though i also remember hearing somewhere that the Mayan had some sort of prediction that something big would happen on that date, but i've no idea if that's even true or not.
ah well, I guess we'll know come December 21, 2012. >.>
From what I understand, mainstream Mayanist scholars consider the cataclysm belief to just a mis-interpretation. though i also remember hearing somewhere that the Mayan had some sort of prediction that something big would happen on that date, but i've no idea if that's even true or not. ah well, I guess we'll know come December 21, 2012. >.>

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Vimick

apparently on the winter solstice of 2012 (December 21st) the sun will line up with the center of our galaxy which only happens every 26,000 years and at the same time the earths tilt does something strange too. dont know what thats supposed to mean though lol
apparently on the winter solstice of 2012 (December 21st) the sun will line up with the center of our galaxy which only happens every 26,000 years and at the same time the earths tilt does something strange too. dont know what thats supposed to mean though lol

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Zectra

The "end" of the callander is not an "end."
The Maya's didn't believe in an end. Instead, it means the end and renewal of a cycle.
It's commonly believed that certain events happen at these periods of the cycle.
I suppose we'll see what happens, if anything popularly noticeable, when it happens.
It's only four more years right? That's a very small amount of time.
The "end" of the callander is not an "end." The Maya's didn't believe in an end. Instead, it means the end and renewal of a cycle. It's commonly believed that certain events happen at these periods of the cycle. I suppose we'll see what happens, if anything popularly noticeable, when it happens. It's only four more years right? That's a very small amount of time.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Jusseppe

I think 2012 is the end of the Fifth Sun (the era we're currently living in). I'll have to check to make sure.
I think 2012 is the end of the Fifth Sun (the era we're currently living in). I'll have to check to make sure.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

keen31

the way i understand it (and i am by no means an expert) is that the mayans believed in set amounts of time that had names. like we have months (~30days) they had these sections of time, based on their astrological calendars.
A baktun is 20 katun cycles of the ancient Maya Long Count Calendar. It contains 144,000 days or 400 tuns or nearly 400 tropical years. The Classic period of Maya civilization occurred during the 8th and 9th baktuns of the current calendrical cycle. The current (12th) baktun will end, or be completed, on 13.0.0.0.0 (December 21, 2012 using the GMT correlation). This also marks the beginning of the 13th baktun, as such a term is usually used among Mayanists.
J. Eric S. Thompson states that when a Long Count of, say, 9.15.10.0.0 is placed in the 9th baktun, we are almost certainly committing an error. However, that practice is so well established among Maya epigraphers and other students of the Maya that to change it would cause more harm than its perpetuation.
perfect excerpt from wiki. from all the information ive seen on the subject the mayans did not predict what would happen or not happen on this date. more over, it was believed that they simply did not know what was to come after that time, only that their calendar completed itself there. 13 being the final number in one of the basic calculations of their calendar system (also correlating to the completion of the astrological cycle - all 12 houses/zodiacs).
long story short, ive come to believe that they used this date/time as a marker for a changing of "eras." just like the changing of baktun to baktun before it, except that this is the first time (according to them/that calendar) that the calendar has completed. i would assume that means the calendar would start over, only at a higher octave/resonance/level. this mirrors the setup of their calendar system as a whole... one cycle repeats as it rolls over into another cycle that repeats in kind.
should you expect anything crazy to happen on that day? probably not, save possibly some interesting\unique astrological events. more than likely you should be aware, that as we approach and move past that date, of what changes are occuring in the world and your life and in what direction they are going.
think up!
the way i understand it (and i am by no means an expert) is that the mayans believed in set amounts of time that had names. like we have months (~30days) they had these sections of time, based on their astrological calendars. [quote]A baktun is 20 katun cycles of the ancient Maya Long Count Calendar. It contains 144,000 days or 400 tuns or nearly 400 tropical years. The Classic period of Maya civilization occurred during the 8th and 9th baktuns of the current calendrical cycle. The current (12th) baktun will end, or be completed, on 13.0.0.0.0 (December 21, 2012 using the GMT correlation). This also marks the beginning of the 13th baktun, as such a term is usually used among Mayanists. J. Eric S. Thompson states that when a Long Count of, say, 9.15.10.0.0 is placed in the 9th baktun, we are almost certainly committing an error. However, that practice is so well established among Maya epigraphers and other students of the Maya that to change it would cause more harm than its perpetuation.[/quote] perfect excerpt from wiki. from all the information ive seen on the subject the mayans did not predict what would happen or not happen on this date. more over, it was believed that they simply did not know what was to come after that time, only that their calendar completed itself there. 13 being the final number in one of the basic calculations of their calendar system (also correlating to the completion of the astrological cycle - all 12 houses/zodiacs). long story short, ive come to believe that they used this date/time as a marker for a changing of "eras." just like the changing of baktun to baktun before it, except that this is the first time (according to them/that calendar) that the calendar has completed. i would assume that means the calendar would start over, only at a higher octave/resonance/level. this mirrors the setup of their calendar system as a whole... one cycle repeats as it rolls over into another cycle that repeats in kind. should you expect anything crazy to happen on that day? probably not, save possibly some interesting\unique astrological events. more than likely you should be aware, that as we approach and move past that date, of what changes are occuring in the world and your life and in what direction they are going. think up!

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

runical

so if I understand correctly, they say it would all repeat itself. Then was there a highly sophiticated society when the calender started, or am I wrong?
Or are all events from back then projected on our 'different' society?
so if I understand correctly, they say it would all repeat itself. Then was there a highly sophiticated society when the calender started, or am I wrong? Or are all events from back then projected on our 'different' society?

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

keen31

@runical
this i do not know, but that logic sounds reasonable. i do not know if there is any existing mayan text that sheds any light on their beliefs of those things, and from what i understand, a lot of what has been gleaned came mostly from 1 very damaged book written by a specific mayan priest.
i dont think they say what the believed occured before OR after their calendar completed itself, only the way the calendar worked. but using that as prescedent one might be able to try and figure out what/how they thought, if only partially.
@runical this i do not know, but that logic sounds reasonable. i do not know if there is any existing mayan text that sheds any light on their beliefs of those things, and from what i understand, a lot of what has been gleaned came mostly from 1 very damaged book written by a specific mayan priest. i dont think they say what the believed occured before OR after their calendar completed itself, only the way the calendar worked. but using that as prescedent one might be able to try and figure out what/how they thought, if only partially.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

runical

interesting that there is only one damaged book they have used. So everything we know about the calendar is from 1 (damaged) book.
Thus it could also be that all we are doing now and everything happening now was the same as in the years before the mayan calendar was started. Or everything starts "repeating" itself after 2012, OR it is already repeating itself...
interesting that there is only one damaged book they have used. So everything we know about the calendar is from 1 (damaged) book. Thus it could also be that all we are doing now and everything happening now was the same as in the years before the mayan calendar was started. Or everything starts "repeating" itself after 2012, OR it is already repeating itself...

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

keen31

from what i understand, that is possible, yes.
the 1 book thing, i may be off base about that. i know there was a famous mayan priest/prophet where a lot of information comes from and he authored that one book im thinking of. however that may not be the only surviving mayan text, or the only text on the calendar... it could be, but i would definitely have to check into that to be sure.
id bet there are plenty of resources that could enlighten you way more than i could, but i did want to throw out there the idea ive come across having been exposed to a lot of it.
from what i understand, that is possible, yes. the 1 book thing, i may be off base about that. i know there was a famous mayan priest/prophet where a lot of information comes from and he authored that one book im thinking of. however that may not be the only surviving mayan text, or the only text on the calendar... it could be, but i would definitely have to check into that to be sure. id bet there are plenty of resources that could enlighten you way more than i could, but i did want to throw out there the idea ive come across having been exposed to a lot of it.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

NewAgeAlchemist

Doomsday advocates have been around for ages and the mayan calender has been speculated about a lot in recent years. At best it just represents a changing of cycle like shift from one astrological age to another, some suggest it happening soon but most don't place such an event for another 150 years or more. Theres a guy who claims to have created a graph from the I Ching that corresponds starting with its creation to end in 2012. 64 symbols repeating 64 times, but theres no reason to believe that logic would just end there and the cycle wouldn't do that pattern another 64 times and continue in that fashion. Theres also the ever present christian belief in a coming judgement, and political unrest with weapons too powerful for our own good.
Y2k was a technological fear, with mythological undertones.. 2012 is a mythological fear with an interesting number of planetary concerns. The issue of global warming, being due for a rather dramatic polar shift and the unknown effects of the higher gravity density of passing through the galactic plane. If you want to make a case for judgement day theres plenty of information out there, anyone can connect dots... the thing to ask is are the dots really related.
Doomsday advocates have been around for ages and the mayan calender has been speculated about a lot in recent years. At best it just represents a changing of cycle like shift from one astrological age to another, some suggest it happening soon but most don't place such an event for another 150 years or more. Theres a guy who claims to have created a graph from the I Ching that corresponds starting with its creation to end in 2012. 64 symbols repeating 64 times, but theres no reason to believe that logic would just end there and the cycle wouldn't do that pattern another 64 times and continue in that fashion. Theres also the ever present christian belief in a coming judgement, and political unrest with weapons too powerful for our own good. Y2k was a technological fear, with mythological undertones.. 2012 is a mythological fear with an interesting number of planetary concerns. The issue of global warming, being due for a rather dramatic polar shift and the unknown effects of the higher gravity density of passing through the galactic plane. If you want to make a case for judgement day theres plenty of information out there, anyone can connect dots... the thing to ask is are the dots really related.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

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