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Oipo

The link to the picture of the geiger counter isn't working at the moment. Just thought I'd let you guys know.
The link to the picture of the geiger counter isn't working at the moment. Just thought I'd let you guys know.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

keen31

i was in there as well when vim was trying to hold the counter. i also had a data expired error with monumental lag.
i, too, assumed the extreme consistency of the data was due to an error, and also suggested that the error may have been, at least in some part, due to vim's holding.
vim- you say you wouldnt lay claim to being able to do such a thing, but honestly... how is causing erroneous data any different from increasing the CPM of a geiger counter? is one intrinsicly more sensical than the other? i would argue they are both either impossible or possible... and if youre willing to believe the one is, it shouldnt be so hard to believe the other is. even saying one is more difficult than the other, in my opinion they are in the same ballpark so i wouldnt put it past you (or any other).
didnt luke bitch to yoda about the difference between lifting stones and lifting his x-wing? wouldnt you say the same for this type of situation?
i was in there as well when vim was trying to hold the counter. i also had a data expired error with monumental lag. i, too, assumed the extreme consistency of the data was due to an error, and also suggested that the error may have been, at least in some part, due to vim's holding. vim- you say you wouldnt lay claim to being able to do such a thing, but honestly... how is causing erroneous data any different from increasing the CPM of a geiger counter? is one intrinsicly more sensical than the other? i would argue they are both either impossible or possible... and if youre willing to believe the one is, it shouldnt be so hard to believe the other is. even saying one is more difficult than the other, in my opinion they are in the same ballpark so i wouldnt put it past you (or any other). didnt luke bitch to yoda about the difference between lifting stones and lifting his x-wing? wouldnt you say the same for this type of situation?

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

AndPious

Some very neat stuff we have here. Here's my highest result - spike of 26.
*Hopes he's using the right code for image*
Some very neat stuff we have here. Here's my highest result - spike of 26. *Hopes he's using the right code for image* [IMG]http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/Ieyusa/geiger1.jpg[/IMG]

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

kiepmad

Pretty cool.
One might try to reduct the number of affects, meaning to attract radioactive particles rather than creating them or shooting them in the direction of the counter. One might be able to reduce the CMP over a longer period of time.
Pretty cool. One might try to reduct the number of affects, meaning to attract radioactive particles rather than creating them or shooting them in the direction of the counter. One might be able to reduce the CMP over a longer period of time.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

SheepKing

Assuming that we are not affecting the electronics of the geiger counter, I don't think you could use psi to attract/repel (other than perhaps a psychokinetic effect) the particles being specifically detected by the counter.
I suppose it is more of a biproduct of concentrating "psi" into whatever area you are focusing on that produces the effect. Or maybe that produces the cause of the effect.
Assuming that we are not affecting the electronics of the geiger counter, I don't think you could use psi to attract/repel (other than perhaps a psychokinetic effect) the particles being specifically detected by the counter. I suppose it is more of a biproduct of concentrating "psi" into whatever area you are focusing on that produces the effect. Or maybe that produces the cause of the effect.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Anonymous Dark

Either way, these results show that the psi is doing something. Very exciting work, glad you added this! :-D
Either way, these results show that the psi is doing [i]something[/i]. Very exciting work, glad you added this! :-D

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

ErikJDurwoodII

Still a crowd pleaser ^__^
Still a crowd pleaser ^__^

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

kiepmad

Assuming that we than "create" ionizing radiation, the next step is to think of an experience which could prove it, apart from a Geiger Müller.
Well this is rather difficult because of many outside affecting elements.
from wikipedia:
"Examples of ionizing radiation are energetic beta particles, neutrons, and alpha particles. The ability of light waves (photons) to ionize an atom or molecule varies across the electromagnetic spectrum. X-rays and gamma rays will ionize almost any molecule or atom; far ultraviolet light will ionize many atoms and molecules; near ultraviolet and visible light are ionizing to very few molecules; microwaves and radio waves are non-ionizing radiation. Visible light is so ubiquitous that molecules that are ionized by it will often react nearly spontaneously unless protected by materials that block the visible spectrum. Examples include photographic film and some molecules involved in photosynthesis."
The question would now be:
Do we "create" ionizing radiation? Do we collect it and then let it free ( don't think so -> the Geiger müller would in that case count less incoming particles before the psiballs are released)
Who do we do it? What radiation is it? (visible psiballs -> UV and in the lower visible spectrum? or is any spectrum possible?)
One might try to cast psiballs on hydrogen to see what radiation is absorbed. This would however require some equipment and MUCH power from psiballs (or VERY sensible measuring equipment.
Any ideas? I'm just pretty enthusiastic right now. If psiballs effect Geiger counter, there must be other ways to use physical measurements to find psiballs!
Assuming that we than "create" ionizing radiation, the next step is to think of an experience which could prove it, apart from a Geiger Müller. Well this is rather difficult because of many outside affecting elements. from wikipedia: "Examples of ionizing radiation are energetic beta particles, neutrons, and alpha particles. The ability of light waves (photons) to ionize an atom or molecule varies across the electromagnetic spectrum. X-rays and gamma rays will ionize almost any molecule or atom; far ultraviolet light will ionize many atoms and molecules; near ultraviolet and visible light are ionizing to very few molecules; microwaves and radio waves are non-ionizing radiation. Visible light is so ubiquitous that molecules that are ionized by it will often react nearly spontaneously unless protected by materials that block the visible spectrum. Examples include photographic film and some molecules involved in photosynthesis." The question would now be: Do we "create" ionizing radiation? Do we collect it and then let it free ( don't think so -> the Geiger müller would in that case count less incoming particles before the psiballs are released) Who do we do it? What radiation is it? (visible psiballs -> UV and in the lower visible spectrum? or is any spectrum possible?) One might try to cast psiballs on hydrogen to see what radiation is absorbed. This would however require some equipment and MUCH power from psiballs (or VERY sensible measuring equipment. Any ideas? I'm just pretty enthusiastic right now. If psiballs effect Geiger counter, there must be other ways to use physical measurements to find psiballs!

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

ErikJDurwoodII

The data suggests that the energy being detected is most likely Hard-X-rays or Soft-Gamma-Rays.
As for "how" our current best theory is that the construct itself originates as an energy density far above the gamma range (and thus beyond the granularity of physical space) At adequate density, the energy will self-interfere with itself and "collapse" longer waves (sub-harmonic) of energy subsequently reaching the physical range of emmissions.
Even if the energy itself doesn't collapse into a detectable spectrum, the "stress" caused by the energy causes small distortions of space (and by extention time) to form creating a potential energy "well" that could cause photons to be released, ionizing radiaton to shed and other odd effects depending on the conditions set in the experiment.
- Erik
The data suggests that the energy being detected is most likely Hard-X-rays or Soft-Gamma-Rays. As for "how" our current best theory is that the construct itself originates as an energy density far above the gamma range (and thus beyond the granularity of physical space) At adequate density, the energy will self-interfere with itself and "collapse" longer waves (sub-harmonic) of energy subsequently reaching the physical range of emmissions. Even if the energy itself doesn't collapse into a detectable spectrum, the "stress" caused by the energy causes small distortions of space (and by extention time) to form creating a potential energy "well" that could cause photons to be released, ionizing radiaton to shed and other odd effects depending on the conditions set in the experiment. - Erik

Last edited by ErikJDurwoodII, 4 years, 8 months ago
Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

Vimick

wow great theory Erik. by the way its great to see you again. you might not remember me ( the name I went by in the psipog IRC chat was "misunderstood") but you used to give me a lot of good advice :P.
wow great theory Erik. by the way its great to see you again. you might not remember me ( the name I went by in the psipog IRC chat was "misunderstood") but you used to give me a lot of good advice :P.

Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

bd333

Who's going to bet that Sean's control for the Geiger Counter is going to be all off from people accidentally effecting it ??
Who's going to bet that Sean's control for the Geiger Counter is going to be all off from people accidentally effecting it [img]http://greasemonkeys.x10hosting.com/icons/wink.gif[/img] ??

Last edited by bd333, 4 years, 7 months ago
Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

RazSh18

Sorry I'm new here, what is the meaning of geiger ? or geiger counter?
Sorry I'm new here, what is the meaning of geiger ? or geiger counter?

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

SheepKing

A geiger counter is a device that measures radiation.
A geiger counter is a device that measures radiation.

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Wandering Wolf

@RazSh18 and SheepKing
RazSh18:
Sorry I'm new here, what is the meaning of geiger ? or geiger counter?
SheepKing:
A geiger counter is a device that measures radiation.
SheepKing, you told him what a geiger counter IS, but you did not tell him what its PURPOSE is.
RazSh18, if you did not already find out for yourself, the purpose of the geiger counter is to see if any of us can influence the readings that the geiger counter picks up (mainly) by using psi energy to influence radiation levels around the geiger counter.
So far, we have all seen incredible results of how simply visualizing the geiger counter with psi energy within its proximity can greatly affect the levels of radiation it detects.
When the geiger counter is back up you will be able to try it out yourself. Just don't forget that you have to log in to use it. Also, if you want to be sure that you are truly influencing it, try doing so when there are not others using the geiger counter at the same time. New instructions for how to tell when you've influenced the geiger counter significantly will be posted by Sean when he has finished compiling the data from his previous geiger counter experiment.
The geiger counter may already be up by the time you read this post, so I apologize for any awkwardness.
@RazSh18 and SheepKing [quote] RazSh18: Sorry I'm new here, what is the meaning of geiger ? or geiger counter? SheepKing: A geiger counter is a device that measures radiation. [/quote] SheepKing, you told him what a geiger counter IS, but you did not tell him what its PURPOSE is. RazSh18, if you did not already find out for yourself, the purpose of the geiger counter is to see if any of us can influence the readings that the geiger counter picks up (mainly) by using psi energy to influence radiation levels around the geiger counter. So far, we have all seen incredible results of how simply visualizing the geiger counter with psi energy within its proximity can greatly affect the levels of radiation it detects. When the geiger counter is back up you will be able to try it out yourself. Just don't forget that you have to log in to use it. Also, if you want to be sure that you are truly influencing it, try doing so when there are not others using the geiger counter at the same time. New instructions for how to tell when you've influenced the geiger counter significantly will be posted by Sean when he has finished compiling the data from his previous geiger counter experiment. The geiger counter may already be up by the time you read this post, so I apologize for any awkwardness.

Last edited by Wandering Wolf, 4 years, 7 months ago
Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

Sean

FYI: Geiger counter is back online. I'll be analyzing the data collected last week either today or during this week.
~Sean
FYI: Geiger counter is back online. I'll be analyzing the data collected last week either today or during this week. ~Sean

Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

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